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How religious you are may be genetic
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: How religious you are may be genetic Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote


http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7147.html
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

"Gullible" is genetic. *shrug*
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Meh...I doubt it.

You'd think if it were genetic we would see 30% of the Chimps bowing to Mecca.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: How religious you are may be genetic Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This is incredibly unlikely. I say this based on my experience as an ex-jehovah's witness. I have seen so many fall short of being even 1% as religious as their parents, while others are extremely religious. Take me and my brother for example. My brother practically spent his entire teenaged life at my grand parent's house, and he became extremely Christian, while I on the other hand for the most part have 0% belief in god.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I thought it was an interesting idea Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jane Austen wrote:
I thought it was an interesting idea Sad

I did too. That is why I started this thread.
http://www.atheistforums.com/biological-need-for-religion-t4408.html
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ok so they proved how twins are genetically connected. But the never explained how religion is related to genes.

1: These twins share identical genes.
2: These twins were born into a religious home and are religious.
C: Therefore, religion is genetically inherited.

That's it?

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Okay.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think the "mind virus" explanation fits best.

If it were in your genes you could never convert.

That sorta fucks up the free will argument too.







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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

These studies try to account for variation in traits between the groups involved. I do not believe any scientist at the University of Minnesota is arguing religiosity is only genetically determined, but that there is a genetic component. Personality traits are a combination of nature and nurture. At the University of Minnesota for many years identical twin studies have been conducted, including 56 sets of monozygotic(identical) twins separated and raised in different environments for all or most of their formative years. Bouchard was the lead researcher and he concluded that genes play a significant role in a long list of personality traits, including religiosity. Now, the question of how we go from the level of the gene to behavior or traits is still an open question. Brain structure seems most plausible as the connecting link.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

baddogma wrote:
I think the "mind virus" explanation fits best.

If it were in your genes you could never convert.

That sorta fucks up the free will argument too.







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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Moloth wrote:
"Gullible" is genetic. *shrug*

I love how theists celebrated the "god gene" when this story first broke, not realising that the evidence actually suggests a genetic disposition towards guillibility. Ha!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If this were true you would have no free will...so ordinary clay...do you still think this is interesting??
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

PJS wrote:
These studies try to account for variation in traits between the groups involved. I do not believe any scientist at the University of Minnesota is arguing religiosity is only genetically determined, but that there is a genetic component. Personality traits are a combination of nature and nurture. At the University of Minnesota for many years identical twin studies have been conducted, including 56 sets of monozygotic(identical) twins separated and raised in different environments for all or most of their formative years. Bouchard was the lead researcher and he concluded that genes play a significant role in a long list of personality traits, including religiosity. Now, the question of how we go from the level of the gene to behavior or traits is still an open question. Brain structure seems most plausible as the connecting link.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Then I must be a mutant, because all my family, AFAIK, are religious, except me.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Sal1981 wrote:
Then I must be a mutant, because all my family, AFAIK, are religious, except me.


You are unique genetically-unless you have an identical twin or a clone.

You have a unique history of experiences.
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