Dawkins goes a tad overboard, again

SvZurich · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:30 am Post subject:

More reasons to love Dr. Dawkins! Very Happy

Awesome and honest men like him are to be cherished!
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pr126 · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:39 am Post subject:

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Moloth · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:54 am Post subject:

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pr126 · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:26 am Post subject:

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kmisho · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:34 am Post subject:

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actualrationalist · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject:

wrong.

"More reasons to love Dr. Dawkins! Very Happy Awesome and honest men like him are to be cherished!"

why? because he uses cacophemisms to exaggerate his cause?

" All religions are cults. Some just have more members than others."

well in your case cult is just a dysphemism for religion to make your case look better.

"that's exactly the point, AR."

that wasn't his point, he was saying that a parent should take the child to a worship house and decide what religion he wants, when in fact all he/she has as a guide for such is their parents. A child has too short of attention span and literary skills to sit down and read the Koran or Talmud. not too mention if the religion required a house of worship, it would have to correspond with the parents schedule.

"Parents are presenting their religion as being the one, true, right to be to these children. The children don't know enough to question.. they're CHILDREN! "

mine never taught that. If one cares enough he can change around 13 when his brain is fully functional and cares about that sort of stuff, or people won't care at all what their religion is when they get older.

"if the parents religion really IS the one, true, way to be, surely the kids will grow up to see that for themselves using logic, reason and facts... Wink"

depends how the grownup interprets facts and or cares enough. The is no one true way to look at something, that is what communism is for.

"So I agree that it was hard to be an atheist more than 150 years ago."

well buddhism has existed along time as atheistic.
and I was reading a Religious biography on Thomas Jefferson and the author said Voltaire was atheist, though he could be wrong.

"This is the main problem with belief without basis, but not the only one. The other is transparent gullibility. This is what makes scepticism so important. Scepticism is a form of self-defense that the gullible lack. "

Alot of people base their belief on scripture which is based off someone elses interpretation on an event.
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kmisho · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject:

actualrationalist · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject:

"The only thing you're mad about is that he doesn't pretend to be nice. If he pretended to be nice, you'd praise him for it and he'd hate himself for being a liar in his own eyes. "

well sure I do, I love science, he is an embarrassment to science with his outspoken views (which aren't agreed on by all scientists), and I think it gives scientists a bad image, so I strongly contest Dawkings format. He needs to look at Michael Shermer for some inspiration.

"The only difference between religion and superstition is the spelling. Get over it. "

Apparently you think their is one only one type of religion. I suggest you start looking up religions. BTW this comment was unwarranted because it had nothing to do with what was stated, it was rather an attack or Red Herring.

"A child SHOULD look at his parents with growing doubt if they truck him off to church to learn about magic spells every week (or day), but few child ren yet have the CAPABILITY to wield that sort of healthy doubt. "

I don't know what church you have been too, but at my prior ones, we never practiced magical spells.

"Don't be a moron and deny that there are many parents who do exactly as Dawkins said they do. "

sure theres one, but you neither I possess such statistic that portrays either way, so it is irrational to look one way or the other based off ones empirical observation or the typical stereotype.

"How many ways can I look at this?: 2+2=4. "

mathematics is the one and only field of learning where it captures 100% truth, conjectures are the only things not proved.

"He did not say it was IMPOSSIBLE. He said it was HARD. "

I nor you can't say either way, there is no statistic to base this off of as of this conversation.

"Which event probably never happened...IF you are educated enough in the field to understand that...ergo no basis in your example."

I admit it (along with scholars and historians) that their is a grain of truth in most stories of the bible, some bigger than others.
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cheapsuprise · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject:

You seam to be confusing some issues here:

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Cult is an accurate term. As would calling a follower of any religion a cultists. You just personally find the term harsh.
All religions cast spells. You might call them prayers but they are precisely the same thing.

MasterZap · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:11 am Post subject:

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