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leaderofdisbelief Visitor


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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: political group for atheists |
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why is there not a political group for atheists in american polotics. there sure as hell are a bunch of christian republicans, democrats, and liberals spreadin and their religion in campaign ads and all that shit. what i want to kno is why do we just fight the system with law suits when we could be a part of the system if not a leader. why hasn't an atheist political party baned together to fight for a religious free nation. we need to do away with these ancient fairytales and start new and fresh with rational thought and logic as a basis for america not reliigious values and all that mess.
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anyone that wants to jump on my grammar can kiss my ass its 130 am and i dont care _________________ "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus
To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.
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rock Forum Master


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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:43 am Post subject: |
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http://www.secular.org/ _________________ We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
That you can't trust freedom
When it's not in your hands
When everybody's fightin'
For their promised lands |
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LOLatChristians Forum Leader

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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Atheism has nothing to do with politics. It is simply the rejection of the idea that supernatural deities exist.
You can be an atheist and still support war, banning of abortions, homosexual marriages, and be against secularism.
It just so happens that most atheists are against most of the stuff religious people are for. But, as they say, correlation is not causation.
If voting mattered, I wouldn't vote for someone who ran on an atheist platform just as I wouldn't vote for someone who ran on a Christian platform. |
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Nimitz Guest
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Atheist are a very diverse group. I've often heard that trying to organize atheists is like trying to herd cats.
The ACLU has represented atheist in many legal cases. But that's not really a political group. Atheist can't even agree on what an atheist really is. We've had many long posts in here trying to describe that basic term.
We never jump anyone about their grammar. But we do subtract points for spelling, punctuation, capitalization, sentence structure, and penmanship!  |
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tonyman1989 Forum Master


Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 2461 Local time: 6:37 AM Location: I was hoping you could tell me.
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Atheism has nothing to do with politics. |
Neither does theism, but it does, So I think we need a group. _________________ "If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." Albert Einstein
"For then we will know the mind of God." Stephen Hawking
"We admit that we are like apes, but we seldom realise that we are apes." Richard Dawkins
http://www.atheistforums.com/weblog.php?w=22 Tonyman1989 blog's - updated on 8/28/07 - An interview of steven weinberg on religion |
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lumpymunk Forum Master


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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Secular politics already exist, no political stance can be taken unique to Atheism... or theism... it's not expansive enough of a belief (because it is only one belief) to encompass an entire political theory.
So, the answer is No. _________________ “Here, here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up, go back to bed America, here is American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on the living in the land of freedom. Here you go America - you are free to do what well tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!” ~ B.Hicks
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Isambard Forum Leader


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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | | Quote: | | Atheism has nothing to do with politics. |
Neither does theism, but it does, So I think we need a group. |
No, but religions themselves do as they are all centered around some sort of political philosophy.
I agree with everyone whos posted, its silly to think you can lump all atheists into a single political philosophy.
For kicks, try to get a Communist and a libertarian into the same room and agree on anything. _________________ Composite things are like dreams. Fantasies. Bubbles. Thoughts. Like a dewdrop and a flash of lightning. A new dress and a burning tire. Waves of sand and sinking ships. The shadow of a statue, and an entry in a diary. A brain tumor and an ice cream sundae. We are thus to be recorded. |
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CET The Spiritual Atheist

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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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The Atheist Party would be a one issue party. We'd fight like cats and dogs. There would be NO solidarity on anything, and we'd fracture in about 3 nano-seconds.
One issue political parties are most successful as special interest groups. _________________ Namaste,
CET
The Spiritual Atheist
"Much of the suffering in the world comes from the delusion that we are separate from one another." - Gautama Buddha
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin |
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RyanDzundza Sock Puppet

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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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maybe not a political party but it would be good if we had an atheist council, since the muslims have the muslim council of Britain
thye could make sure that laws arent made because of the religous beliefs of the law maker e.g. abortion being made illegal for being an affront to the lord _________________
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leaderofdisbelief Visitor


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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| RyanDzundza wrote: | maybe not a political party but it would be good if we had an atheist council, since the muslims have the muslim council of Britain
thye could make sure that laws arent made because of the religous beliefs of the law maker e.g. abortion being made illegal for being an affront to the lord |
that actually does sound better and more probable then a political party
and id like to thank everyone on the feed back _________________ "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus
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rickyroma Repressed hippy

Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 6516 Local time: 10:37 AM Location: England
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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My dearest Comrades!
There may come a day when we Atheists abandon the struggle to keep the glorious Kim Il Jung regime in power.
But it is not this day.
Vote yes for North Korean expansion NOW!
| Quote: | | For kicks, try to get a Communist and a libertarian into the same room and agree on anything. |
I say we send the wretched capitalists to the guillotine. _________________ Theists wank too. |
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