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 Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: pie = 3 |
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What bible verse says pie (the math symbol) equals 3?
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1 Kings 7:23 says:
| Quote: | | And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. |
It's about a big bathtub King Solomon made out of cast iron for his Temple. If we go by the asumption that the sea was perfectly circular (i.o.w. that this is the meaning of "round all about"), it follows that pi = 3.
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| Gerard wrote: | 1 Kings 7:23 says:
| Quote: | | And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. |
It's about a big bathtub King Solomon made out of cast iron for his Temple. If we go by the asumption that the sea was perfectly circular (i.o.w. that this is the meaning of "round all about"), it follows that pi = 3.
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Heck, for a primitive people, that was a pretty good guess... Remember: God works in mysterious ways... |
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| Gerard wrote: | 1 Kings 7:23 says:
| Quote: | | And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. |
It's about a big bathtub King Solomon made out of cast iron for his Temple. If we go by the asumption that the sea was perfectly circular (i.o.w. that this is the meaning of "round all about"), it follows that pi = 3.
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Thank you.
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I would like 3 pies--one cherry, one blueberry, and one boysenberry! 
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josephpalazzo
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| ApostateLois wrote: | | I would like 3 pies--one cherry, one blueberry, and one boysenberry! |
And no apple pie??? You anti-American... get out of here... |
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| josephpalazzo wrote: | | Gerard wrote: | 1 Kings 7:23 says:
| Quote: | | And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. |
It's about a big bathtub King Solomon made out of cast iron for his Temple. If we go by the asumption that the sea was perfectly circular (i.o.w. that this is the meaning of "round all about"), it follows that pi = 3.
Gerard |
Heck, for a primitive people, that was a pretty good guess... Remember: God works in mysterious ways... |
Assuming this history is right, it apparently wasn't a very good guess. Egyptians and Babylonians had better approximations nearly 2000 BC, around a 1000 years before that passage was written.
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| BarkAtTheMoon wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Gerard wrote: | 1 Kings 7:23 says:
| Quote: | | And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. |
It's about a big bathtub King Solomon made out of cast iron for his Temple. If we go by the asumption that the sea was perfectly circular (i.o.w. that this is the meaning of "round all about"), it follows that pi = 3.
Gerard |
Heck, for a primitive people, that was a pretty good guess... Remember: God works in mysterious ways... |
Assuming this history is right, it apparently wasn't a very good guess. Egyptians and Babylonians had better approximations nearly 2000 BC, around a 1000 years before that passage was written. |
Is this a case of: no, the Russians knew that before... no, the Chinese did... no, the Zulus, blah, blah, blah...  |
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Pi contradicts scripture, it's atheist math!
Somebody call the Discovery Institute!
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I think this whole "pi=3" argument is pretty silly. It is not said, for example, what instrument is used to measure a "cubit". Since a cubit is the length from a man's elbow to his fingertips, this could vary greatly. Something tells me that some amount of rounding was used. Furthermore, if the circle was slightly out of round, if the edge flared out, etc, these should all be taken into affect. All in all, it's silly to say that the author (or "god") was attempting to give exact measurements or (especially) give us a definition of pi.
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| Shrouded in darkness ... lost in the mists of time ... buried inside an enigma within a conundrum ... trapped in the labrynth of history ... huh, I'm hungry, can I have that last piece of Pi? |
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| Mr_C wrote: | | I think this whole "pi=3" argument is pretty silly. It is not said, for example, what instrument is used to measure a "cubit". Since a cubit is the length from a man's elbow to his fingertips, this could vary greatly. Something tells me that some amount of rounding was used. Furthermore, if the circle was slightly out of round, if the edge flared out, etc, these should all be taken into affect. All in all, it's silly to say that the author (or "god") was attempting to give exact measurements or (especially) give us a definition of pi. |
But that's the thing, if the author is directly inspired by the voice of God or is God himself as alleged by believers, then he should damned well know a lot more about the world than the mistakes made in the Bible...or the Bible is just like every other pagan mythology and superstitions made up by primitive cultures about things they didn't understand...
It is a bit of a silly argument though. We can do better. There's so many ways to crush the Bible that little semantics games are kind of child's play.
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| BarkAtTheMoon wrote: | | Mr_C wrote: | | I think this whole "pi=3" argument is pretty silly. It is not said, for example, what instrument is used to measure a "cubit". Since a cubit is the length from a man's elbow to his fingertips, this could vary greatly. Something tells me that some amount of rounding was used. Furthermore, if the circle was slightly out of round, if the edge flared out, etc, these should all be taken into affect. All in all, it's silly to say that the author (or "god") was attempting to give exact measurements or (especially) give us a definition of pi. |
But that's the thing, if the author is directly inspired by the voice of God or is God himself as alleged by believers, then he should damned well know a lot more about the world than the mistakes made in the Bible...or the Bible is just like every other pagan mythology and superstitions made up by primitive cultures about things they didn't understand...
It is a bit of a silly argument though. We can do better. There's so many ways to crush the Bible that little semantics games are kind of child's play. |
Couldn't have said it better myself. Yes, God should know that mathematicians would get their panties in a wad about that verse, but that wasn't the point of the verse and it is questionable whether we even have a valid argument. But I agree completely- we can do so much better. |
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If we all agree that the bible was written by humans, why do we fuss about such marginal, human errors? I know... it's fun to poke at these "people" and rub their noses in the mud...  |
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Well, actually the pie that the scriptures refer to is a fruit pie baked for 3 visitors.
It's a mistranslation. Or out of context. Or such.
LOL.
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