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Prove me wrong.
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*cough*Burden of proof*cough*
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GodWarrior98
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| joshuas3521 wrote: | | *cough*Burden of proof*cough* |
Proof: Philosophy has not resulted in any advancement of the human race.
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Blatant assertion
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joshuas3521
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| GodWarrior98 wrote: | | joshuas3521 wrote: | | *cough*Burden of proof*cough* |
Proof: Philosophy has not resulted in any advancement of the human race. |
First, prove it.
Second, Aristotle developed a precise set of laws governing the logical mind and syllogisms to represent them. This was the first time that algorithms could be written out and logic was developed. Thousands of years later, the first computer was invented based on this very principle. I'll scan in a few pages from a book.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy is Useless Junk |
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| GodWarrior98 wrote: | | Prove me wrong. |
You realize that any field of study relies on a philosophical basis right?
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GodWarrior98
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| joshuas3521 wrote: | | GodWarrior98 wrote: | | joshuas3521 wrote: | | *cough*Burden of proof*cough* |
Proof: Philosophy has not resulted in any advancement of the human race. |
First, prove it.
Second, Aristotle developed a precise set of laws governing the logical mind and syllogisms to represent them. This was the first time that algorithms could be written out and logic was developed. Thousands of years later, the first computer was invented based on this very principle. I'll scan in a few pages from a book. |
"Proof" is a philosophical term. By telling me to find some, you are assuming philosophy should be used in an argument.
Computers aren't based off of some paragraphs about what's wrong and right, they're based on quantum mechanics.
I do not, Isambard.
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joshuas3521
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| GodWarrior98 wrote: | | Computers aren't based off of some paragraphs about what's wrong and right, they're based on quantum mechanics. |
Look up Turing Machines. You are getting close to my ignore list.
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GodWarrior98
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| joshuas3521 wrote: | | GodWarrior98 wrote: | | Computers aren't based off of some paragraphs about what's wrong and right, they're based on quantum mechanics. |
Look up Turing Machines. You are getting close to my ignore list. |
Oh no, some poor faggot on the internet is going to ignore me because he can't counter my flawless arguments. What will I do, other than maybe have sex with a woman and not drown in my own misery?
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joshuas3521
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| GodWarrior98 wrote: | | joshuas3521 wrote: | | GodWarrior98 wrote: | | Computers aren't based off of some paragraphs about what's wrong and right, they're based on quantum mechanics. |
Look up Turing Machines. You are getting close to my ignore list. |
Oh no, some poor faggot on the internet is going to ignore me because he can't counter my flawless arguments. What will I do, other than maybe have sex with a woman and not drown in my own misery? |
You have no fucking clue how important the theory of computation is to modern computing. I now officially label you as troll. Goodbye, I will not be responding again.
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GodWarrior98
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| joshuas3521 wrote: | | GodWarrior98 wrote: | | joshuas3521 wrote: | | GodWarrior98 wrote: | | Computers aren't based off of some paragraphs about what's wrong and right, they're based on quantum mechanics. |
Look up Turing Machines. You are getting close to my ignore list. |
Oh no, some poor faggot on the internet is going to ignore me because he can't counter my flawless arguments. What will I do, other than maybe have sex with a woman and not drown in my own misery? |
You have no fucking clue how important the theory of computation is to modern computing. I now officially label you as troll. Goodbye, I will not be responding again. |
OH NO
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The undead hordes of my ignore list are growing.
Our time is soon.
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| GodWarrior98 wrote: | | Philosophy is useless junk. |
Philosophy is not useless junk.
| GodWarrior98 wrote: | | Proof: Philosophy has not resulted in any advancement of the human race. |
Philosophy has resulted in various advancements of the human race.
I DARE YOU, GODWARRIOR98, to try and disprove those statements.
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GodWarrior98
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| nidias91 wrote: | | GodWarrior98 wrote: | | Philosophy is useless junk. |
Philosophy is not useless junk.
| GodWarrior98 wrote: | | Proof: Philosophy has not resulted in any advancement of the human race. |
Philosophy has resulted in various advancements of the human race.
I DARE YOU, GODWARRIOR98, to try and disprove those statements. |
Philosophy states nothing about survival or technology. Thus, it could not provide anything in those fields.
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There are many things that don't help us survive, or are not necessary.
Clothes, mass entertainment, television, etc.
Anything can be used to help us survive. Philosophy, throughout history, has allowed people to develop their faith or lack of. This has allowed us to move away from things like the Crusades and the Inquisition.
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