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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

anamoly wrote:
greyghost wrote:
Moloth wrote:
hee hee... greyghost takes me seriously... Wink


Fuck ya I'm taking you "seriously"! Now where is my proper reply!! I want my motherfucking proper reply! Mad


I seriously think that you're seriously taking this too seriously. I want to inform you properly that I am seriously considering not taking you seriously.

Properly seriously,

Anamoly


So now I'm overreacting? I'm NOT taking this too seriously, moloth owes me a reply!!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

greyghost wrote:
anamoly wrote:
greyghost wrote:
Moloth wrote:
hee hee... greyghost takes me seriously... Wink


Fuck ya I'm taking you "seriously"! Now where is my proper reply!! I want my motherfucking proper reply! Mad


I seriously think that you're seriously taking this too seriously. I want to inform you properly that I am seriously considering not taking you seriously.

Properly seriously,

Anamoly


So now I'm overreacting? I'm NOT taking this too seriously, moloth owes me a reply!!

(commencing "thread hijacking")

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OOOH NO! Everyone hold on, we're gonna be experiencing some turbulence Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

anamoly wrote:
greyghost wrote:
anamoly wrote:
greyghost wrote:
Moloth wrote:
hee hee... greyghost takes me seriously... Wink


Fuck ya I'm taking you "seriously"! Now where is my proper reply!! I want my motherfucking proper reply! Mad


I seriously think that you're seriously taking this too seriously. I want to inform you properly that I am seriously considering not taking you seriously.

Properly seriously,

Anamoly


So now I'm overreacting? I'm NOT taking this too seriously, moloth owes me a reply!!

(commencing "thread hijacking")

Heart

OOOH NO! Everyone hold on, we're gonna be experiencing some turbulence Razz


Ya....nvm I'm bored now. Was just trying to trick moloth....BTW, thanks for ruining that anamoly.....

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

hee hee.... Greyghost thinks he can trick me... Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Philosophy Is... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Philosophos wrote:
Do you value philosophy as a field of study? If so, I'm curious to hear why you do. What is philosophy? Can you summarize it in a sentence?

I believe I can without oversimplifying my beliefs too much, so I'll start.

Philosophy is making sure that we mean what we say.


Philosophy is an intriguing diversion for people with real interests. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Ya....nvm I'm bored now. Was just trying to trick moloth....BTW, thanks for ruining that anamoly.....

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oopsies...sorry I'm just bored..at home sick and I have nothing to do....
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Philosophy Is... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Philosophos wrote:
Do you value philosophy as a field of study? If so, I'm curious to hear why you do. What is philosophy? Can you summarize it in a sentence?


I do value philosophy. I majored in it, despite the financial consequences. In fact, I went to a school where it was literally the only thing you could major in.

Philosophy is the building of artful thought-structures.

Philology (love of reasoning/words/ratios/discussion) is the rigorous application of research and doubt. I don't think many people do this, but the two should not really be separated in practice.

Philosophos wrote:
I believe I can without oversimplifying my beliefs too much, so I'll start.

Philosophy is making sure that we mean what we say.


I like that. I'd say it's also being able to say what we mean.

On the other hand, philology could be described as finding out what our sayings mean.

WisdomManiac91 wrote:

I agree. Though there are certain realms of philosophy that are less coherent than others. For example, I would think that knowing a good form of reasoning is more important than trying to prove that we don't exist (nihilism).


I think you have a misunderstanding of nihilism. Actually, to be more precise, you have only presented one form of nihilism. This sounds like Lebowskian nihilism or Russian political nihilism (sorta).

According to Nietzsche (and me Wink ), nihilism is the natural result of Idealist (in the epistemological-metaphyiscal sense) philosophy and Christianity (though it also probably applies to all monotheisms). Many forms of Buddhism could also be described as nihilistic.

Nihilism is not necessarily something you choose. It's also unlikely that a rigorous thinker would brag about being a nihilist or encourage its development in others. It's a thing to be feared and overcome, not a thing to "prove". It may prove itself from certain perspectives.

Dopey Gigglz wrote:
*It progresses


Progresses toward what, from what, and along what path? I'm not sure that this is true.

Dopey Gigglz wrote:
*Everyone does it


Maybe. All people think about questions that relate to it. I think this is a little like saying that everyone does calculus because everyone counts. That may be because I am reluctant to say I wasted so many years of my life. Smile

It may also just be that some do it better than others and that training can help with that.

SalsaShark wrote:
To be less poetic than everyone else, philosophy is the rigorous study of concepts by means of reasoning.


Cheers. I like this, though I do like poetical things, too.

Klarky wrote:

My Brother, life long Marxist, is fond of the following quote; “The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point, however, is to change it”.


This is from the Theses on Feuerbach. Marx is good at being terrifying. He may have a point, though, terrifying or not. I remember shuddering when I first read that. I shudder a lot when I read Marx, though. That or fall asleep. He's a pretty awful writer.

Regarding skepticism:

I would consider myself a radical skeptic. I doubt the solidity of all things. It's exhausting, and it can be problematic. I also fail to apply it in a number of different ways and at a number of different times.

People have been saying that skepticism is a problem of philosophy. I think, especially in an atheist forum, we must also acknowledge that it is one of the most useful tools of philosophy. It's like that famous equation, E=mc^2: dangerous, beautiful, and powerful.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

STOP USING YOUR BRAIN BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO EATS IT!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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STOP USING YOUR BRAIN BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO EATS IT!


Fava beans, anyone?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Mmm..I'll bring the Chianti...which is actually really good...
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