Paleontologists at a Creationist museum

AMindlessBrain

This is one of the best articles I've ever seen on the evolution vs. creationist debate. It actually doesn't go that much into the two sides, but it gives more than a fair shake to science which doesn't usually happen.

Paleontologists at a Creationist Museum

aileron · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject:

I really hope the fundies do more of these things. The nominal, fon't-think-about-it-much Christians out there who still think in terms of "good Christians" have a really hard time understanding what nutballs the fundies are. The more the fundies shoot themselves in the foot this way the better.

josephpalazzo · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject:

Raskolnikov · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject:

I find it funny how the christian professors keep saying "Oh! This is SUCH a distorted view of christianity!" When, in reality, it's as literal as it gets xD
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Geneboy · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject:

Should be even better when PZ Myers heads down to Hovind's Dinosaur Adventure Land to collect the ipod he won from them.
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AMindlessBrain · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject:

I think this is the first mainstream article I've read that covers a few very important points:

~Creationism is a religious belief, not a scientific one
~Creationism is an ideology, which makes it very very different from scientific theory
~Teaching this stuff in schools is not ok
~Creationists try to brainwash their followers and demonize the outside world
~This point wasn't explicit, but I do think the author implied that the only "evidence" for creationism is the bible.

Most mainstream articles really follow the pattern of creationism is just another scientific theory, and should be given equal value. I have a big problem that in the world at large there's this PC mentality that all ideas are created equal. No. Not all ideas are created equal, and that's why science picks the best one with the most evidence backing it up.

I could go on and on about this, but I'll stop now.

baddogma · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject:

Ken Ham is the ONE theist I absolutely despise. He is one walking rectum.
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Cygnus · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject:

Geneboy · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:24 pm Post subject:

Hasn't happened yet, but he does say it's gonna happen. More here,

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/06/victory_1.php
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Cybercommuter · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject:

Qutsemnie · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject:

I think its interesting to see scientist come face to face with the distillation of their own religious beliefs. My advisor in my masters program was an expert on gene expression analysis and technology and also a devout mormon. I never asked him out that works because while the two arn't necessarily contradictory you certainly need to rub elbows with a diverse crowd on both sides, but i suspect its by comparmentalizing.

When an paleontologist elder comes face to face with someone building on the implications of Genesis that has got to create a crisis of faith for some.

One way to get people to think and question beliefs is to show them graphically the consequences of their beliefs. It is interesting that if I were to make a museum designed to make one question the bible it would be a lot like this creationist museum. Difference is they are reveling its glory, while I would be saying "see... nutz!" Proof by absurdity of the negation is not logically valid but it is pretty gosh darn convincing.

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