Out of body experience

aitm · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: Out of body experience

I remember it well. I was floating over my house. Odd how different everything looks from above it. Then I just fly off, across the fields that I always played in then over the forests where I would chase chipmunks. I was flying across the Au Sable river over the “high banks” zipping down to skim the “ten island group”, then up into the clouds, back across the fields and forest hovering over my house looking at the dog as he lay sleeping under the large elm tree.
Then of course, I woke up. No it was not an out of body experience it was a dream. Damn good one too. I remember it well because I was 14, It was the night before my very first basketball game as a JV and I was a starter and I took that dream as an omen of good things. I made 10 steals, scored 22 points and was a goddamn hero.
Anyhoo, I bring this up because at 14 I had never flown, yet my mind was able to conjure up perfect images of the rooftop of my house, how the fields, forests, the river everything from high above even though I had no idea what it would be like to fly.
Years later when I first heard of “out of body” experiences and then when people who were brought back to life regaled us with stories of their “white light”, relatives etc, my skeptical little mind kicked in high gear. If my mind could have conceived all that it does in a dream with absolutely no previous experience, than how easily can a mind conjure up all kinds of “real” images.
Most of us are aware of the incredible things our mind can do, but most never give it much credit to keeping every part of us moving every day. You can’t tell you self to move and you will. You won’t take one damn step until you actually step, its damn annoying that you cannot control your own leg. You can’t stop your heart, liver, pancreas, hell you can’t stop anything in your body, its as if you are not really in control, just the part aiming the extremities, anything not really associated with the body you control.
The mind gives you what you want to see, in near death or after you are dead the mind seems to give you what you want to see. This is how the great “white light” came to be. Perhaps people wanted to see God, since there is no ready image other than biblical stories is it any wonder devout people see “God”?
Out of body experiences, especially on the operating table are another mystery, but now we hear that many people are not even “out”, they are awake yet sedated so they cannot move! Yikes! The mind can easily conjure up any image we would like to see, and can certainly make up a situation such as these.

munky99999 · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject:

fucking hippy. stop with the drugs.
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Nubbins · Visitor Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 24 Local time: 5:52 PM

aitm - think of it this way.

Humans have limited capacities - we can only see and hear in certain spectrums, we must be maintained at certain temps to function.

We have the same organs...the same brain, the same vessel with which to perceive the world and interact with it. Out of body experiences, light at the end of the tunnel, fears of [fillin the blank], likes, dislikes... in fact, even the things recounted as 'miracles' or visions or whatever... our bodies only do so much...and our brains have similar roll-o-dexes of ideas to respond to stimuli. Just because other peopel experience "out of body" doesn't make it true... just makes it a common human experience (the sensation of, not the actual out of body).

Out of body experiences are merely one of the many types of responses our brain has to certain circumstances. I get ocular headaches. blood vessel fills up, and knocks out my vision, by pressing on the vision center in my brain. It actually looks like items in front of me... people's heads... entirely disappear, because my brain tries to fill in the blanks of what's there (and after a point forgets to try to fill in the head, and fills it in with the wall behind it, causing me to momentarily have to look calm when I want to shout "WHERE'S YER HEAD AT???" anyway.

The brain is an incredible thing. While you may not be able to fly, if you have seen movies - even Heroes Season 2 with the flying boy, or aerial photos, or... well... hell, maps.google.com selecting 'satellite' or looked out a window in a tall building... you have more ideas about what it looks to be 20 feet over the ground than you realize. Your brain runs through all the miscellaneous recordings it has on the cutting room floor, and has a blast with them during REM sleep.

in fact, the mere idea that your brain is the thing that needs convincing for you to believe things, that perceives and makes sense of your world... dancing impishly around and feeding you impossible data like that ... can be really confusing. If your BRAIN tells you it's true, who are you gonna ask for a second opinion??? Very Happy

aitm · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject:

very nice nubbins, you are saying pretty much what I said, thanks for agreeing with me. Funny I was sure this was posted to general discussion. Is there a particular reason this was re-asigned to crankery?

Shiranu · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Out of body experience

munky99999 · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Out of body experience

monkeybyte · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject:

Feh, all I get is brief 'floating' sensations before I nod off.
Bastids. Crying or Very sad

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Shiranu · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Out of body experience

Hit_me_up024 · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject:

if you say you had an outer-body experience then you are saying that you have a soul. If you have a soul something put it their.......

ewww that means your religious!!!!
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Hit_me_up024 · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject:

LogicX · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject:

Burn them!!!
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Shiranu · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject:

Hit_me_up024 · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject:

aitm · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:49 am Post subject:

The point here really was to mention that the brain controls whatever it wants to present to the concious or sub-concious. The mind can present dreams, dilusions, and compete mental incapacity.
A magnificent device that has been overlooked when people claim interference from gods, spirits and so forth.

munky99999 · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:29 am Post subject:

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