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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: Origin of Vision Discovered |
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You are reading these words right now because 600 million years ago, an aquatic animal called a Hydra developed light-receptive genes—the origin of animal vision.
It wasn't exactly 20-20 vision back then though.
Hydras, a genus of freshwater animals that are kin to corals and jellyfish, measure only a few millimeters in diameter and have been around for hundreds of millions of years.
Scientists at the University of California, Santa Barbara studied the genes associated with vision (called opsins) in these tiny creatures and found opsin proteins all over their bodies.
Though they don't have eyes or any specific light-receptive organs, researchers think that the light-sensing proteins concentrated in the mouth area of the Hydras help them to use light sensitivity to search out prey.
Because studies of animals that evolved earlier, such as sponges, don't show the same light sensitivity, scientists were able to pinpoint the Precambrian date that animal vision first started to evolve.
"We now have a time frame for the evolution of animal light sensitivity," said study leader David Plachetzki, a UC Santa Barbara graduate student. "We know its precursors existed roughly 600 million years ago.
These findings, detailed in a recent issue of the online journal PLoS ONE, counter arguments by anti-evolutionists that evolution can only eliminate traits and cannot produce new features, the authors say.
“Our paper shows that such claims are simply wrong," said co-author Todd Oakley, also a UC Santa Barbara biologist. "We show very clearly that specific mutational changes in a particular duplicated gene (opsin) allowed the new genes to interact with different proteins in new ways. Today, these different interactions underlie the genetic machinery of vision, which is different in various animal groups.”
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I remember reading something like this in National Geographic last year - it charted how sea-creature's patches of light-sensitive membranes (used to help find direction) slowly developed into eyes. |
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Moloth Fateless

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Knight_of_BAAWA Jedi Slackmaster

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<creationist>But...but...Darwin said that the eye couldn't have evolved!</creationist> _________________ aa #51, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
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hillbillyatheist Administrator


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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: | | <creationist>But...but...Darwin said that the eye couldn't have evolved!</creationist> |
oh that had to be the devil work. He planted these hydras as fake evidence for devil-lution to lead folks astray.  |
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greyghost Annoyingly Addicting

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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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This was pretty much explained in great detail by Richard Dawkins, Climbing Mount Improbable...11 years ago. _________________ "There is no such uncertainty, as a sure thing."-Robert Burns
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Azrael Celestial Teapotist

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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Of course despite this Creationist will use the eye as an example of intelligent design. _________________ I'm not insane, at least that's what the voices in my head tell me. |
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RyanDzundza Sock Puppet

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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Azrael wrote: | | Of course despite this Creationist will use the eye as an example of intelligent design. |
yet they would never use the penis as an example, although mentioning such a thing would be a mortal sin
althou we all know the penis is anything but intelligent lol _________________
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greyghost Annoyingly Addicting

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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| RyanDzundza wrote: | | Azrael wrote: | | Of course despite this Creationist will use the eye as an example of intelligent design. |
yet they would never use the penis as an example, although mentioning such a thing would be a mortal sin
althou we all know the penis is anything but intelligent lol |
Actually....Richard Dawkins explained that too lol (Forgot which book, if interested I can go look for it). _________________ "There is no such uncertainty, as a sure thing."-Robert Burns
"A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be."-Albert Einstein
"Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons."-Bertrand Russell
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RyanDzundza Sock Puppet

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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| greyghost wrote: | | RyanDzundza wrote: | | Azrael wrote: | | Of course despite this Creationist will use the eye as an example of intelligent design. |
yet they would never use the penis as an example, although mentioning such a thing would be a mortal sin
althou we all know the penis is anything but intelligent lol |
Actually....Richard Dawkins explained that too lol (Forgot which book, if interested I can go look for it). |
i dont think your serious but im drunk (again, i know) so idont know lol if your being serious then anything by RD is good _________________
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greyghost Annoyingly Addicting

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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| RyanDzundza wrote: | | greyghost wrote: | | RyanDzundza wrote: | | Azrael wrote: | | Of course despite this Creationist will use the eye as an example of intelligent design. |
yet they would never use the penis as an example, although mentioning such a thing would be a mortal sin
althou we all know the penis is anything but intelligent lol |
Actually....Richard Dawkins explained that too lol (Forgot which book, if interested I can go look for it). |
i dont think your serious but im drunk (again, i know) so idont know lol if your being serious then anything by RD is good |
Actually I was being serious. I don't remember which book, but he briefly states that the penis is not irreducibly complex. _________________ "There is no such uncertainty, as a sure thing."-Robert Burns
"A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be."-Albert Einstein
"Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons."-Bertrand Russell
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RyanDzundza Sock Puppet

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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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ah good lol well if u do remember the book post it here its always good to read stuff that RD published _________________
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