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 Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:11 am Post subject: Oh, I finally get the Bible! |
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The bible (and every other religious book for that matter) is like a book telling you if you stand on your head long enough, you'll get rich. Atheists read this book and we may even stand on our heads for a second, but after 1.1 seconds, we realize its bullshit. Christians read it and when they don't get rich, they think it's something they're doing wrong, so they stand on their heads even longer. Meanwhile, no one has actually seen anyone profit from this "get rich" method, but 90% of the population continues to stand on their head anyway. 
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The profit from "right meditation," outlined in some Buddhist texts, is actually thought to exist.
Furthermore, there have been a handful of studies (some quoted on this forum) that show that believers can live happier, heathier lives.
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| Philosophos wrote: | The profit from "right meditation," outlined in some Buddhist texts, is actually thought to exist.
Furthermore, there have been a handful of studies (some quoted on this forum) that show that believers can live happier, heathier lives. |
OK, phil, stop reading Anne Rice. |
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Her vampire novels or Christ novels?
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| Philosophos wrote: | The profit from "right meditation," outlined in some Buddhist texts, is actually thought to exist.
Furthermore, there have been a handful of studies (some quoted on this forum) that show that believers can live happier, heathier lives.* |
*when not killing, subjugating, discriminating, or being killed, subjugated or discriminated against in the name of their, or someone else's particular religion.
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Zocrates
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| Philosophos wrote: | | Furthermore, there have been a handful of studies (some quoted on this forum) that show that believers can live happier, heathier lives. |
I could be wrong but these studies have shown that it's more positive thinking that leads people to happier, healthier lives than the actual "standing on the head", praying or going to church.
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| Moloth wrote: | | Philosophos wrote: | The profit from "right meditation," outlined in some Buddhist texts, is actually thought to exist.
Furthermore, there have been a handful of studies (some quoted on this forum) that show that believers can live happier, heathier lives.* |
*when not killing, subjugating, discriminating, or being killed, subjugated or discriminated against in the name of their, or someone else's particular religion. |
Right. And how often does that happen amongst the sects under consideration here? Have you read the specific studies?
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| Philosophos wrote: | | Her vampire novels or Christ novels? |
Dunno, but she did say that since she has converted to Roman Catholicism, she is happier, healthier. |
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| Zocrates wrote: | | Philosophos wrote: | | Furthermore, there have been a handful of studies (some quoted on this forum) that show that believers can live happier, heathier lives. |
I could be wrong but these studies have shown that it's more positive thinking that leads people to happier, healthier lives than the actual "standing on the head", praying or going to church. |
There's no way to seperate out "positive thinking" in the studies I've looked at from religiocity. To do so is simply to confirm one's own worldview without addressing the data.
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| Philosophos wrote: | | Zocrates wrote: | | Philosophos wrote: | | Furthermore, there have been a handful of studies (some quoted on this forum) that show that believers can live happier, heathier lives. |
I could be wrong but these studies have shown that it's more positive thinking that leads people to happier, healthier lives than the actual "standing on the head", praying or going to church. |
There's no way to seperate out "positive thinking" in the studies I've looked at from religiocity. To do so is simply to confirm one's own worldview without addressing the data. |
Well what I mean is that they have done separate studies based solely on positive and negative thinking that have nothing to do with religion. Religion gives most people a positive outlook, which can actually be had without religion (quiet as it's kept  ).
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| Zocrates wrote: | | Philosophos wrote: | | Furthermore, there have been a handful of studies (some quoted on this forum) that show that believers can live happier, heathier lives. |
I could be wrong but these studies have shown that it's more positive thinking that leads people to happier, healthier lives than the actual "standing on the head", praying or going to church. |
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I dunno. I did searched the forums for my previous posts on the matter, and couldn't find them. Then I did a medline search, and got over 1000 hits. Then I got lazy, and realized that I just don't care enough right now to do any more work on the matter. 
Perhaps when I'm more ambitious I can dig up solid data on the matter...
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| josephpalazzo wrote: | | Dunno, but she [Anne Rice] did say that since she has converted to Roman Catholicism, she is happier, healthier. |
The Rick Copeland simply thinks it served as a comfort for her after the death of her husband...
| Zocrates wrote: | | Religion gives most people a positive outlook, which can actually be had without religion (quiet as it's kept). |
It can. The Rick Copeland suspects that religion does work for some people. He also thinks it does make some people "better people" (as in their ability to function in society) by holding the threat of eternal punishment over their heads. Now whether the religion actually states what people claim (it might or it might not) or is rooted in reality (The Rick Copeland contends it is not) is a separate issue...
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| baddogma wrote: | | Zocrates wrote: | | Philosophos wrote: | | Furthermore, there have been a handful of studies (some quoted on this forum) that show that believers can live happier, heathier lives. |
I could be wrong but these studies have shown that it's more positive thinking that leads people to happier, healthier lives than the actual "standing on the head", praying or going to church. |
The theist is happy, the atheist is wise. (moloth) |
LOL. I'd rather be happy.
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| rickcopeland648 wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Dunno, but she [Anne Rice] did say that since she has converted to Roman Catholicism, she is happier, healthier. |
The Rick Copeland simply thinks it served as a comfort for her after the death of her husband...
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Sorry to disappoint The Rick Copeland, but her husband died in 2002. Anne returned (not converted, my mistake) to RC in 1998. |
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