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ShaSha Forum Master

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 5541 Local time: 7:40 PM Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: No Sex Talk at RichardDawk |
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I've been a member of the RD forums for about two years. I've been mostly a lurker because of being too busy but do post occasionally.
I rather liked most of their rules because our forum at the time had none when it came to attacking members. Theirs allowed all forms of words but not against a member. Flaming was scolded. One time I received a warning for calling somebody a buttinski Can you believe that? Anyhow it was a nice place to go to fill gaps that were missing at this forum.
The forum was busier than this one which is why I enjoyed it because there were many more topics that I enjoyed as well as good discussions by mature people in many different countries. It was a win win place when I combined it with the familiarity of this one.
I went there a week or so ago after a long absence of several months and was completely surprised by the new rules and the way they handled them.
They cannot talk about their own personal sexual thoughts or activities. Sex can only be discussed in its' scientific discourse.
This is the forum where just months before I would go to read this one writer's hilarious posts where he wrote about his sex life, his bowel movements, and others did topics about what does sperm taste like and so on. They wrote in what was considered OT forum meaning "Anything goes".
Apparently Richard's site is a non profit and his attorneys said that that status could be affected because of some of the language and links to pics. Yup, pics of nudity other than art are prohibited. I guess the motto is that if it can't be on Discover TV channel, don't post it on the forum. It is because it is a server in the US and non profit status in the US is desired that they have to conform.
Now that might not be the worse thing in the world since there is plenty to talk about in life although not always as funny as some of those writers when they let loose What is worse is that all former posts have been edited to remove said content. The posts aren't deleted but rather hidden where nobody can read them So anybody reading threads from the past are going to have parts missing that are pertinent but edited because of language.
I could be wrong but I think fuck is no longer allowed and it was used more than a few times by members there just as it is here. Definitely boring when it is over used as some here have done but not a word that needs to be censored either.
Many popular members left to start a forum where they could do their OT threads easily. But like the writer who was the funniest and very popular among the readers said, it was that occasionally funny mix that made the forum pleasureable. It isn't the same to have to sign into different forums because sometimes one thread leads to another. I did check into the alternative forum but they couldn't discuss the RD forum and their displeasure with the censoring. And the energy that made it all good at the RD forum wasn't there. I will continue being a member there because I love their art threads and links and a few more. I like that they have bookmarks so I don't have to have reminders in email that there is a new post. I just check the bookmarks at the forum and can catch up with the latest in my favorites. And of course I still do a new thread scan for that rare discussion that I might not have been exposed to somewhere, sometime.
This forum, AF, has about a perfect balance now, IMO. We have enough moderating to keep the flames down but otherwise the people are free to discuss anything that isn't illegal.
I will probably hunt down that favorite writer of mine now and then. He is very gifted and many have said he should write a book. I expect he will write where he can freely but it won't be the same. I am not complaining, I know life changes and I enjoy the moment as much as I can.
I was just surprised when it happened. It does fulfill my thoughts though that secular pressures are as strong as any religious ones when it comes to control. You can take god and religion out of people but you can't take away the desire to by some to make all conform to their way. |
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jdopus Dirty Hun/Fenian

Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 223 Local time: 8:40 PM Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland

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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, I have to say, it may be a good move on his half, it seems the sort of thing that the media could jump upon and if I were in his position I would likely have made similar descisions
However, I think a complete ban is rather harsh, Dawkins hasn't cared in the past about offending people, so why suddenly make the descision now? _________________ No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all others are based |
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Buckster Administrator


Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 5813 Local time: 9:40 PM Location: Motown
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Fuck, fuck, fuck and fuckity-fuck ShaSha! It's all about teh sex to you, isn't it? Yeah, we all know the truth about you - you just wanna talk all the time about how sperm tastes and share your joy of bowel movements during orgasms, you oversexed religious nut, you!
Think of the CHILDREN!
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ShaSha Forum Master

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 5541 Local time: 7:40 PM Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Buckster wrote: | Fuck, fuck, fuck and fuckity-fuck ShaSha! It's all about teh sex to you, isn't it? Yeah, we all know the truth about you - you just wanna talk all the time about how sperm tastes and share your joy of bowel movements during orgasms, you oversexed religious nut, you!
Think of the CHILDREN!
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Eeeeeeeeeeeew, no bm during orgasm! But orgasmic bms, well almost
They probably had a thread on that but I missed it. Darn.
Oversexed, no. Sex maniac, yes
I didn't mention that having many more women on that forum was also a good reason to be there. Very nice to be around a greater variety of women who actually post not just about their philosophy but multi subjects. We've had very few regular women posters at this or the IG forum.
Gee, I thought I'd get a good discussion going here like how much members here might appreciate how free they are to discuss so much here.
jdopus, as I mentioned in order for Dawk to get non profit for his website he has to have it all squeaky clean. I haven't searched it completely but as far as I know, his regular site doesn't need to follow those rules.
But come on, why is discussing one's sexual proclivities banned? We can read it if it is in a book about interviews with lots of people but let a lot of people on a forum discuss it freely and it becomes not fit for children?
Incidentally, the guy who was such a great story teller about his bodily functions, or his wife's is a fellow Irishman of yours  |
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iconoclasticskylark Visitor

Joined: 15 Nov 2008 Posts: 11 Local time: 8:40 PM
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I am a member there and are yet to notice any new rules about such. Although I guess it depends on context- but on the general outset I can't really think of any occasion where such a rule has taken place. Oh well.
ShaSha, what is/was your username on the RDF? |
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ShaSha Forum Master

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 5541 Local time: 7:40 PM Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| iconoclasticskylark wrote: | I am a member there and are yet to notice any new rules about such. Although I guess it depends on context- but on the general outset I can't really think of any occasion where such a rule has taken place. Oh well.
ShaSha, what is/was your username on the RDF? |
I was an inconsequential poster over there so I'd rather keep a low profile for the few times I might go over there and keep that private. But I am glad to share the many links that I am aware of that discuss it and I expect there are even more that I am not aware of.
This dude was like one of the originators of the forum (on of my favorite mods, admins) and is no longer there. Whether willingly or booted, I know not but he is now the owner of the breakaway forum yet won't let the people discuss the RD forum.
http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=60389
Reading this thread should pretty well lead you to many of the things I mentioned.
http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1428880#p1428880
Here's a post where one of the members wants to see who hasn't deserted ship
http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1435801#p1435801
This whole thread is hilarious but this post summarizes quite a few of the facts of the new rules and the implementation of them.
http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1485423#p1485423
In depth discussion of the new rules
http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1432623#p1432623
Discussion of the new forum here
http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1428985#p1428985
The new forum rules. This was found on the forum index page under welcome. Quite frequently that is where you will find FAQS for newbies etc.
http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1428835#p1428835
Here's part of it:
"If it wouldn't fly on the Discovery Channel (standard cable television), it doesn't fly on this forum. All threads containing inappropriate content will be removed from the site immediately.
SEX
Discussions on sexuality are limited to professional scientific studies and topics. No discussions of personal sexual issues, desires, or problems. No images, descriptions or discussions of sexual acts"
And one final link is to this post. Look at the warning that LP got and that was even the old rules. LP was also one of my favorite posters. Only 19 I believe, a young woman of great experience, fun and intelligence.
http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1434208#p1434208
Yea, it reminds of when IG split  |
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jdopus Dirty Hun/Fenian

Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 223 Local time: 8:40 PM Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland

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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ShaSha wrote: | | Buckster wrote: | Fuck, fuck, fuck and fuckity-fuck ShaSha! It's all about teh sex to you, isn't it? Yeah, we all know the truth about you - you just wanna talk all the time about how sperm tastes and share your joy of bowel movements during orgasms, you oversexed religious nut, you!
Think of the CHILDREN!
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Eeeeeeeeeeeew, no bm during orgasm! But orgasmic bms, well almost
They probably had a thread on that but I missed it. Darn.
Oversexed, no. Sex maniac, yes
I didn't mention that having many more women on that forum was also a good reason to be there. Very nice to be around a greater variety of women who actually post not just about their philosophy but multi subjects. We've had very few regular women posters at this or the IG forum.
Gee, I thought I'd get a good discussion going here like how much members here might appreciate how free they are to discuss so much here.
jdopus, as I mentioned in order for Dawk to get non profit for his website he has to have it all squeaky clean. I haven't searched it completely but as far as I know, his regular site doesn't need to follow those rules.
But come on, why is discussing one's sexual proclivities banned? We can read it if it is in a book about interviews with lots of people but let a lot of people on a forum discuss it freely and it becomes not fit for children?
Incidentally, the guy who was such a great story teller about his bodily functions, or his wife's is a fellow Irishman of yours  |
If he's a Catholic Irishman I'm bound by culture to yell obscenities and call him a Fenian bastard, hope he doesn't mind  _________________ No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all others are based |
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ShaSha Forum Master

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 5541 Local time: 7:40 PM Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| jdopus wrote: | | ShaSha wrote: | | Buckster wrote: | Fuck, fuck, fuck and fuckity-fuck ShaSha! It's all about teh sex to you, isn't it? Yeah, we all know the truth about you - you just wanna talk all the time about how sperm tastes and share your joy of bowel movements during orgasms, you oversexed religious nut, you!
Think of the CHILDREN!
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Eeeeeeeeeeeew, no bm during orgasm! But orgasmic bms, well almost
They probably had a thread on that but I missed it. Darn.
Oversexed, no. Sex maniac, yes
I didn't mention that having many more women on that forum was also a good reason to be there. Very nice to be around a greater variety of women who actually post not just about their philosophy but multi subjects. We've had very few regular women posters at this or the IG forum.
Gee, I thought I'd get a good discussion going here like how much members here might appreciate how free they are to discuss so much here.
jdopus, as I mentioned in order for Dawk to get non profit for his website he has to have it all squeaky clean. I haven't searched it completely but as far as I know, his regular site doesn't need to follow those rules.
But come on, why is discussing one's sexual proclivities banned? We can read it if it is in a book about interviews with lots of people but let a lot of people on a forum discuss it freely and it becomes not fit for children?
Incidentally, the guy who was such a great story teller about his bodily functions, or his wife's is a fellow Irishman of yours  |
If he's a Catholic Irishman I'm bound by culture to yell obscenities and call him a Fenian bastard, hope he doesn't mind  |
OMG, you are him!!
No, he wouldn't take offense. That was the fun part too was picking up a wee bit o the Irish culture on that forum.
He's an x Catholic and he narrated a story of an encounter with a priest just this past year that had us all rolling. I would dig out some of those threads except I have no way of knowing if they are even accessible. They haven't been deleted, just hidden forever from any prudish eyes.
There were more than a few X Catholic but still Irish members there I am X Catholic, very little Irish, and still theist so I could relate to some of the stories of the church. My favorite priest on this side of the pond though was an Irish one. What a beautiful brogue and he was always nice, at least I thought so. I think he was drunk a lot too but hey that can keep people happy? |
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