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tinker683
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| Philosophos wrote: | | tinker683 wrote: | | Quick question then: What do you and the others in the Ivory Tower do then if you recieve a large volume of compliants against a particular member? |
It would depend on the nature of the complaint. |
Well, I suppose in this case general asshatery would be complaint.
Sorry, I should have clarified that. My mistake.
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Moloth
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okay, Joe.. whatever you choose to believe.
whatever makes you feel better. *shrug*
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josephpalazzo
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| Dawkadoodle wrote: | | Philosophos wrote: | | Dawkadoodle wrote: | | "Trolling" isn't a real word, simply just internet slang. |
True. But, as you may have noticed, this is the internet.
But your point is well-taken. As with most of language, there's a gray area. Should this rule come into play, the admins must decide whether a given act is indeed "trolling". We do indeed have a problem of mapping a continuous variable ("how much of a troll is this guy?") to a discrete domain (ban or no ban). The question is then: is this, in and of itself, an argument for not having the rule in the first place? I personally don't think so. But, I am against this rule - although for other reasons.
But your point should be digested by the readers. Ultimately, the decision to ban or not ban lies upon the admins of this forum. Do you want us to judge who is "trolling" and who is not? If you vote for the trolling rule, you are giving us the implicit authortity to do so. Are you comfortable with that? |
No, what I said won't be taken seriously by many of these forum because I've already been labeled a "Troll." People shouldn't be judgde to be a "troll." Obviously, there isn't much diversity here as most have similiar views, so it wouldn't be a very fair or objective way to do so. I'm against the rule not only because what a troll is, is subjective, but because group mentality will very often decide who a troll is regardless if they are or not. With a generic rule, a good amount of users on here could be banned for being a "Troll."
Troll, if any rule is to exist, should be special cases in which a debate between the accused (Troll) and the adminstrators is allowed. Strict debate guidelines should be enforced, and each side is given ample time to present their cases. A rough draft, perhaps, but if developed would likely be the best way to resolve the problem. |
For whatever this amounts. I'm with you on this. But Moloth considers me a troll, so my support amounts to zero... |
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Moloth
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i do?
this post would indicate otherwise, Joe:
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insults aren't the problem.
its the lack of substance.
For instance, i happen to think Joe acts like a paranoid idiot sometimes. BUT... he says things of substance occasionally. he makes good points. he has something to say. he can be insightful. this isn't about Joe, though.
this is about the intentional disruption of the function of this forum. |
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Dawkadoodle
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| Moloth wrote: | | Dawkadoodle wrote: | | Philosophos wrote: | | Dawkadoodle wrote: | | "Trolling" isn't a real word, simply just internet slang. |
True. But, as you may have noticed, this is the internet.
But your point is well-taken. As with most of language, there's a gray area. Should this rule come into play, the admins must decide whether a given act is indeed "trolling". We do indeed have a problem of mapping a continuous variable ("how much of a troll is this guy?") to a discrete domain (ban or no ban). The question is then: is this, in and of itself, an argument for not having the rule in the first place? I personally don't think so. But, I am against this rule - although for other reasons.
But your point should be digested by the readers. Ultimately, the decision to ban or not ban lies upon the admins of this forum. Do you want us to judge who is "trolling" and who is not? If you vote for the trolling rule, you are giving us the implicit authortity to do so. Are you comfortable with that? |
No, what I said won't be taken seriously by many of these forum because I've already been labeled a "Troll." People shouldn't be judgde to be a "troll." Obviously, there isn't much diversity here as most have similiar views, so it wouldn't be a very fair or objective way to do so. I'm against the rule not only because what a troll is, is subjective, but because group mentality will very often decide who a troll is regardless if they are or not. With a generic rule, a good amount of users on here could be banned for being a "Troll."
Troll, if any rule is to exist, should be special cases in which a debate between the accused (Troll) and the adminstrators is allowed. Strict debate guidelines should be enforced, and each side is given ample time to present their cases. A rough draft, perhaps, but if developed would likely be the best way to resolve the problem. |
you've made no point.
you've only disrupted, insulted and derailed.
People cannot comment on any points that you have made, because you have made none.
its that simple.
leave. leave, before the Mods have to ban you. |
You've done nothing but made empty claims and told me to leave because you're pissed that someone you don't like hasn't been banned because you feel they should be. Whereas, any mod here, can see I've made valid arguments in this thread which do need to be considered. Perhaps if you weren't so busy whacking your jillyjack at the thought of me being banned, you could join in the discussion- You know, instead of just making these airy claims about me and ignorantly stating that I'm worthless because of some stereotype you want so hard to be true. |
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Dawkadoodle
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| josephpalazzo wrote: | | Dawkadoodle wrote: | | Philosophos wrote: | | Dawkadoodle wrote: | | "Trolling" isn't a real word, simply just internet slang. |
True. But, as you may have noticed, this is the internet.
But your point is well-taken. As with most of language, there's a gray area. Should this rule come into play, the admins must decide whether a given act is indeed "trolling". We do indeed have a problem of mapping a continuous variable ("how much of a troll is this guy?") to a discrete domain (ban or no ban). The question is then: is this, in and of itself, an argument for not having the rule in the first place? I personally don't think so. But, I am against this rule - although for other reasons.
But your point should be digested by the readers. Ultimately, the decision to ban or not ban lies upon the admins of this forum. Do you want us to judge who is "trolling" and who is not? If you vote for the trolling rule, you are giving us the implicit authortity to do so. Are you comfortable with that? |
No, what I said won't be taken seriously by many of these forum because I've already been labeled a "Troll." People shouldn't be judgde to be a "troll." Obviously, there isn't much diversity here as most have similiar views, so it wouldn't be a very fair or objective way to do so. I'm against the rule not only because what a troll is, is subjective, but because group mentality will very often decide who a troll is regardless if they are or not. With a generic rule, a good amount of users on here could be banned for being a "Troll."
Troll, if any rule is to exist, should be special cases in which a debate between the accused (Troll) and the adminstrators is allowed. Strict debate guidelines should be enforced, and each side is given ample time to present their cases. A rough draft, perhaps, but if developed would likely be the best way to resolve the problem. |
For whatever this amounts. I'm with you on this. But Moloth considers me a troll, so my support amounts to zero... |
Have you noticed that of all the "trolls" here, Moloth seems to be the best representation of what a "troll" is. |
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Philosophos
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| tinker683 wrote: | | Well, I suppose in this case general asshatery would be complaint. |
Then it most likely would have been struck down in the Ivory Tower.
But I'd like to say that we, as admins, have very different opinions oh how this forum should be run. My personal view leans to the least bans.
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Moloth
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and what stereotype is that, Dawk? hm?
please, explain to us all why poor little you has been singled out for absolutely no reason at all.
go right ahead.
You're performing a classic Troll technique: insult, bitch and belittle... but when people call you on it, suddenly turn around, whine and act like a victim of the 'oppressors'.
puh-leeze. 
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Moloth
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Have you noticed that of all the "trolls" here, Moloth seems to be the best representation of what a "troll" is. |
and i'm sure YOUR opinion will be carried with the weight it deserves.
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josephpalazzo
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Moloth wrote: | i do?
this post would indicate otherwise, Joe:
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insults aren't the problem.
its the lack of substance.
For instance, i happen to think Joe acts like a paranoid idiot sometimes. BUT... he says things of substance occasionally. he makes good points. he has something to say. he can be insightful. this isn't about Joe, though.
this is about the intentional disruption of the function of this forum. |
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But you are a fucking moron, all the time... |
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Moloth
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okay.
*shrug*
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Dawkadoodle
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| Moloth wrote: | | Dawkadoodle wrote: |
Have you noticed that of all the "trolls" here, Moloth seems to be the best representation of what a "troll" is. |
and i'm sure YOUR opinion will be carried with the weight it deserves. |
This is an "anonymous" e-forum system, all opinions carry the same weight. |
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tinker683
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Philosophos wrote: | Then it most likely would have been struck down in the Ivory Tower.
But I'd like to say that we, as admins, have very different opinions oh how this forum should be run. My personal view leans to the least bans. |
I see. Good to know then.
For the record, I'm with you Phil.
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Moloth
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| Dawkadoodle wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | | Dawkadoodle wrote: |
Have you noticed that of all the "trolls" here, Moloth seems to be the best representation of what a "troll" is. |
and i'm sure YOUR opinion will be carried with the weight it deserves. |
This is an "anonymous" e-forum system, all opinions carry the same weight. |
not true.
your opinion means basically nothing to me.
Philo's, ChrissyFos's, Mr_C's (to name a few) mean quite a bit. they carry more weight.
To think that all opinions carry the same weight, even on this forum, is a fallacy.
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Dawkadoodle
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| Moloth wrote: | and what stereotype is that, Dawk? hm?
please, explain to us all why poor little you has been singled out for absolutely no reason at all.
go right ahead.
You're performing a classic Troll technique: insult, bitch and belittle... but when people call you on it, suddenly turn around, whine and act like a victim of the 'oppressors'.
puh-leeze. |
Can you establish that despite what I've said not being anything like the misrepresetnation you've claimed of me, is a classic troll technique? Can I have objective verificiation insteado your opinion? Can you even prove that "classic troll techniques" exist with a real source...not some thing like Wikipedia or Urban Dictionary?
You probably can't: So that means this is just your angsty little opinion of me that you're trying to present as some higher than thou assertion of my character without any base whatsoever. |
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