Monkeywolf and Anton Batey discussion.

monkeywolf · Visitor Joined: 07 Aug 2008 Posts: 7 Local time: 12:14 PM

No that isn't what I was saying he was right how when people bring up facts like there are stories in the Bible that other cultures have had 100 if not 1000 of years before the Bible was made, and you still deny you know in your heart that they are right but you ignore the feeling. I didn't mean Pastor C00k was right.

LakeGeorgeMan · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:40 am Post subject:

monkeywolf · Visitor Joined: 07 Aug 2008 Posts: 7 Local time: 12:14 PM

@LakeGeorgeMan

Thank you for clarifying that.

Eh that is true, I could suppose that I wouldn't know who or want God or any God for that matter if it wasn't for society, but then again the same thing could be said that if you were raised only knowing about God and that everything in the world happened because it was God's will and you never knew of anything such as science, philosophy, logic, etc. you would end up coming up believing everything was an act of God. So it does go both ways of course.

Actually I do believe in other gods. i know it seems like I contradicted myself there so let me explain this. I believe in ONE God, the Jewish God whom they call Yahweh, the Christian God whom is called... God or Lord, and the Muslim God who is known as Allah, I also believe in the Hindu God know as Vishnu as well. I believe they are all one entity. I find that all religions have a common ground between simply because they aren't different but are interconnected. I mean think about it. The Jewish faith set the ground for the Christian faith, all Christians can be considered Jews, and both Christianity and Judaism set the grounds for Islam, all Muslims can be considered Christians who can then be considered Jews.

Hinduism's beliefs are also similar to those of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Their role of Karma is seen in the other three religions, their view of their God, Vishnu the Preserver is what they now consider, since they became a monotheistic religion, a form of Brahma the creator, and the form before Shiva the Destroyer, funny three... reminds me of the Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost... which then reminds me of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam... Judaism followed the teachings of the prophets who got their teachings from God directly, the Father, Christians follow the teachings of the Father and Jesus Christ, his Son, and the Muslims follow the teachings of the last prophet Muhammad, the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost.

Hinduism's stories and morals are also VERY close to Judaism, they eat kosher foods, they both have stories of a great flood, and they both came around at roughly the same time. So I do believe in Vishnu as well as Yahweh, God, and Allah. I just happen to think they are all one person.

My evidence is that if you study up on the time and dates of when all of these religions popped up and tarted to actually set their basis, from Judaism to Taoism, they all always have some counterpart to it. Judaism and Hinduism, Taoism and Buddhism, I would say Confucianism but that isn't really a religion since they don't actually worship any being or deity. Every religion has some sort of counter part and they also pop in within a sort time span, some even within 6 years of each other. That is one MASSIVE coincidence in my book. So that is what I put my faith and evidence in, simply because it is in the realm of impossible for all of that to happen like it did. So my evidence isn't from one religion or one book like the Bible but from multiple religions and books. Plus can 1.1 billion Hindus really be wrong? (note this last bit is a joke I like humor in conversations like this ^_^)

So that is were my faith in God is. I mean every thing that we base on religion is based on faith. No matter how much logic you have at the end of the day it does come down to faith. Such as you have placed your faith in your logic to say that there isn't a God as much as I have put my faith into believing there is a God.

PS: The religions like Buddhism and Taoism I believe they are required for centering ones body and mastering ones emotions through meditation and what not. I do believe that we must enter a point of enlightenment to leave the cycle of rebirth, which ties this back into both Buddhism and Hinduism, and go to Nirvana or heaven.

Wickedtruth · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:38 am Post subject:

monkeywolf · Visitor Joined: 07 Aug 2008 Posts: 7 Local time: 12:14 PM

Actually they aren't if you look into it. They are very much the same on many levels.

Wickedtruth · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:01 am Post subject:

monkeywolf · Visitor Joined: 07 Aug 2008 Posts: 7 Local time: 12:14 PM

I have and if you read the Bible it has passages that actually refer to Karma and, in a stretch, to reincarnation. I mean you can even look at Jesus rising from the dead as his form of reincarnation.

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