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SmellingTheCoffee Forum Plebian

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: McCain's Speech Last Night or "Leave It to Bush" |
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The only thing missing in McCain’s speech in New Orleans the other night was hot coco and a cardigan. I swear the man sounded exactly like my dad lecturing me on using the car without refilling the tank.
you can’t use a person’s car without replacing the gas, where’s your mind at?
You can’t fix government with government, Bush is government and he stinks. What is Obama thinking?
Made me homesick.
(‘Course, just how McCain hopes to fix the problems the Bush government made without Bush’s government is anyone’s guess.)
But that does bring up the trashing he gave Bush…”the failed policies”…”the fiscal irresponsibility”…”abandonment after Katrina”. I had to keep reminding myself that this was the REPUBLICAN candidate speaking. I haven’t heard Democrats dump on Bush as much as McCain did last night.
I’ve got to hand it to him, he has a pair of brass balls to say “my party has royally screwed things up, so elect me and I will fix the mess we made using the same methods that got us into the mess to begin with”. Iraq, tax-cuts, health-care, no child left behind…all of his policies are simply continuations of Bush’s policies. Yet there was dad hauling them out and holding them up as bright new shiny plans that will solve all of the problems that these same plans created. You got to laugh.
You have to hand it to his audience as well; which numbered well into the 10’s. I mean they didn’t really have that much to cheer about, but they gave it a good college try. However, even they couldn’t bring themselves to cheer the trashing of their president and fearless leader. The shocked silence was a testament to their loyalty.
CNN eventually gave up hoping for anything of substance and gratefully leapt away from the speech to announce Barack Obama had clinched the nomination and would be the candidate. They never did go back to dad – which is a pity because I was getting all warm and fuzzy; I miss my dad, he was out of touch and a little senile at the end but was so simple in his view of the world that you just forgave him and let him talk. McCain reminded me of him last night.
But at any rate, Americans now have a choice between McCain and Obama. I wonder; will they go with warm and fuzzy or pragmatic and effective? Will they hope that by electing dad to the White House they can feel like the entire nation has entered a “Leave it to Beaver” episode in which the biggest problem is Beav being pushed off the softball team by a girl he secretly likes? Or will they go with a man who defines the problems they face and offers sometimes tough, not always popular, but possibly effective solutions and who promises never to assume he knows more then they do?
It will be interesting to watch. In the meantime, whenever I feel like being nostalgic and homesick, I am going to listen to a McCain speech and will remember my dad. _________________ I have no objection to a God who refuses to prove that he exists; but what to make of one who creates so much evidence that he doesn't? |
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Shiranu WTF IS ME?!?!!!111!!

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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McCain admitting the party royally fucked up?
God, these people are SO fucking unoriginal. Ron Paul was saying that while the rest of the party was licking and kissing Bush all along the anal oriface. _________________ Cheap, Sweat Shop-Free T-Shirts, ranging from Political to Ecological topics.
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GodWarrior98 Royal Citizen

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| Shiranu wrote: | McCain admitting the party royally fucked up?
God, these people are SO fucking unoriginal. Ron Paul was saying that while the rest of the party was licking and kissing Bush all along the anal oriface. | Yes, Ron Paul was the only republican who disliked Bush. |
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Shiranu WTF IS ME?!?!!!111!!

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| GodWarrior98 wrote: | | Shiranu wrote: | McCain admitting the party royally fucked up?
God, these people are SO fucking unoriginal. Ron Paul was saying that while the rest of the party was licking and kissing Bush all along the anal oriface. | Yes, Ron Paul was the only republican who disliked Bush. |
Am I detecting a strand of sarcasm in that statement? Because if it was, I believe I have a clip of McCain kissing Bush's ass for a couple minutes straight.
Either way, this is just more rhetoric from a politican trying to gain votes, nothing to special, just more reason to hate the lot of them. _________________ Cheap, Sweat Shop-Free T-Shirts, ranging from Political to Ecological topics.
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caseagainstfaith God's gift to atheism

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: Re: McCain's Speech Last Night or "Leave It to Bush&quo |
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| SmellingTheCoffee wrote: |
Bush is government and he stinks.
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McCain really said that, after he's been sucking Dubya's dick for the past 8 years? _________________ Please visit my site at www.caseagainstfaith.com featuring critiques of Lee Strobel and other apologetics
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Shiranu WTF IS ME?!?!!!111!!

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: Re: McCain's Speech Last Night or "Leave It to Bush& |
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| caseagainstfaith wrote: | | SmellingTheCoffee wrote: |
Bush is government and he stinks.
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McCain really said that, after he's been sucking Dubya's dick for the past 8 years? |
So it would seem. The man is a complete nutjob, though. I think alot of it stems from Vietnam, where he was a P.O.W. for awhile. No p.o.w. is ever the same after the incident... im sorry, its true. If you look at what he has done after he got back, things like cheat on his wife repeatedly, flip flop on issues and blatantly lied about his position to the people he was elected to serve (but, what politican doesn't?), and has SHOT DOWN MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS TO GIVE VETS BETTER BENIFITS (something I feel strongly about due to the fact that I have had two WW2 war heros in my family, one got decent care from the military, the other got nothing, he litterly lived in a two room, wooden shack, with a beat up pickup, a t.v., and a small farm. The guy had a 2 purple hearts and a silver(?) star, which is one reward down from the medal of honor! He deserved better, for fucks sake).
The man is a crackpot, do not be surprised by anything he does. _________________ Cheap, Sweat Shop-Free T-Shirts, ranging from Political to Ecological topics.
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SmellingTheCoffee Forum Plebian

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: Re: McCain's Speech Last Night or "Leave It to Bush& |
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| caseagainstfaith wrote: | | SmellingTheCoffee wrote: |
Bush is government and he stinks.
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McCain really said that, after he's been sucking Dubya's dick for the past 8 years? |
Here is what McCain actually said:
The right change recognizes that many of the policies and institutions of our government have failed. They have failed to keep up with the challenges of our time because many of these policies were designed for the problems and opportunities of the mid to late 20th Century, before the end of the Cold War; before the revolution in information technology and rise of the global economy….
…The irony is that Americans have been experiencing a lot of change in their lives attributable to these historic events, and some of those changes have distressed many American families -- job loss, failing schools, prohibitively expensive health care, pensions at risk, entitlement programs approaching bankruptcy, rising gas and food prices, to name a few. But your government often acts as if it is completely unaware of the changes and hardships in your lives. And when government does take notice, often it only makes matters worse.
We must also prepare, far better than we have, to respond quickly and effectively to a natural calamity. When Americans confront a catastrophe they have a right to expect basic competence from their government. Firemen and policemen should be able to communicate with each other in an emergency. We should be able to deliver bottled water to dehydrated babies and rescue the infirm from a hospital with no electricity. Our disgraceful failure to do so here in New Orleans exposed the incompetence of government at all levels to meet even its most basic responsibilities.
Here is Dad speaking:
I am surprised that a young man [Obama] has bought in to so many failed ideas. Like others before him, he seems to think government is the answer to every problem; that government should take our resources and make our decisions for us….That attitude created the unresponsive bureaucracies of big government in the first place.
Here is the “Bush stinks” moment:
I have worked with the President to keep our nation safe. But he and I have not seen eye to eye on many issues. We've disagreed over the conduct of the war in Iraq and the treatment of detainees; over out of control government spending and budget gimmicks; over energy policy and climate change; over defense spending that favored defense contractors over the public good.
I disagreed strongly with the Bush administration's mismanagement of the war in Iraq. I called for the change in strategy that is now, at last, succeeding where the previous strategy had failed miserably. (ouch! Taking credit for the “surge” while dumping the “miserable previous failure” on Bush)
Here “Bush is to blame for the economy – not me” part:
For eight years the federal government has been on a spending spree that added trillions to the national debt. It spends more and more of your money on programs that have failed again and again to keep up with the changes confronting American families. Extravagant spending on things that are not the business of government indebts us to other nations; fuels inflation; raises interest rates; and encourages irresponsibility. I have opposed wasteful spending by both parties and the Bush administration.
Here is “Bush’s energy policy stinks”:
The next President must be willing to break completely with the energy policies not just of the Bush Administration, but the administrations that preceded his…
…the energy bill promoted by President Bush and Vice President Cheney, which gave even more breaks to the oil industry. I opposed it because I know we won't achieve energy independence by repeating the mistakes of the last half century.
How he has been opposed by Bush:
I proposed a climate change policy that would greatly reduce our dependence on oil. Our approach was opposed by President Bush,
Here is “Bush’s Washington stinks”:
Washington is consumed by a hyper-partisanship that treats every serious issue as an opportunity to trade insults; impugn each other's motives; and fight about the next election. This is the game Washington plays. Both parties play it, as do the special interests that support each side…The American people…are sick of the politics of selfishness, stalemate and delay, and they have every right to be. We have to change not only government policies that have failed them, but the political culture that produced them.
And finally “The Bush White House stinks” moment:
If I'm elected President, the era of the permanent campaign of the last sixteen years (actually 7 years but who’s counting) will end. The era of reform and problem solving will begin.
That last line “the era of reform and problem solving will begin” is a direct shot. Dad is saying Bush has created problems not solved them. _________________ I have no objection to a God who refuses to prove that he exists; but what to make of one who creates so much evidence that he doesn't? |
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