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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Jesus was black? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

On the video section of the CNN site I saw a video about a new Jesus film called "Color of the Cross" by director Jean Claude Lamarre in which Jesus is depicted as a black man. In the interview TJ Holmes asks Lamarre if this is a metaphor of some kind or if this is meant as historically accurate. Lamarre answers that what we know of the area (Roman Palestine) would suggest that Jesus was probably black.

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This film is probably closer to being historically accurate than anything we've seen previous. You kno, Mell Gibson Passion.... as much attention as Mel payed to detail still was a bit off in terms of the visual representation of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I think everything that we know about that region of the world suggests that Jesus would in fact have been a person of color, probably a darker hue and definitely Semitic in nature. Obviously the images that we have been fed as a Christian community goes against everything that logic points to.


The people surrounding Jesus in this movie seem to be black as well and the story suggests there was a racial division in Roman Palestine in the First Century that played a role in the crucifiction.

The movie is made by the people that set up this website

www.blackchristianmovies.com

I heard about Cleopatra and Socrates, but now Jesus is black too? Afrocentrism hooks up with Christianity?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

doesn't seem to be much of a website as far as content goes, maybe they are new...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The Discovery Channel has Jesus looking...well, my avatar is from their website Smile.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hurtman2000 wrote:
The Discovery Channel has Jesus looking...well, my avatar is from their website Smile.


If there ever was a Jesus I suppose your avatar depiction has a bigger chance of being closer to what he looked like.

The interview is on the "watch video" section of the CNN site

http://us.cnn.com/

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hurtman2000 wrote:
The Discovery Channel has Jesus looking...well, my avatar is from their website Smile.


The Discovery Channel also just aired several ghost stories and tried to pass them off as science. Rolling Eyes

But from the area as to where Jesus was supposed to have frequented, he would most likely not have been black.

And I have read from other articles that the movie in which Jesus is portrayed as black is meant to have a more metaphorical significance rather than literal.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:55 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

the 'black jesus' seems to me just a reaction against the typically WHITE JESUS we're all familiar with.

As i've said on these forums many times: If Jesus had existed, he probably would have looked a lot like osama bin laden or some other such middle eastern terrorist. (which of course, isn't to say jesus is a terrorist, although i know any christian reading this pry jumped to that conclusion).

Although I think there's a chance jesus could have been a very dark skinned middle easterner. When we say "black" we usually mean "African", so he wouldn't have been black, but possibly could have been "black" in a less specifically african sense.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:49 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oh come on people! Jesus was Nordic! Just look at the vast majority of the art! Surely that bias of those cultures isn't responsible for god's son's form, surely God is White! Just ask that paragon of Xian values known as the KKK if you doubt me. Wink In fact, being lily white in the Middle East was HOW THEY KNEW HE WAS THE SON OF GOD! HE STOOD OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:45 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

jkorath wrote:

As i've said on these forums many times: If Jesus had existed, he probably would have looked a lot like osama bin laden or some other such middle eastern terrorist. (which of course, isn't to say jesus is a terrorist, although i know any christian reading this pry jumped to that conclusion).


Couldn't you have just said "middle eastern"? Do middle eastern terrorists look different from non-terrorist middle easterns?

Besides, everyone knows Jesus was Chinese.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

SvZurich wrote:
Oh come on people! Jesus was Nordic! Just look at the vast majority of the art! Surely that bias of those cultures isn't responsible for god's son's form, surely God is White! Just ask that paragon of Xian values known as the KKK if you doubt me. Wink In fact, being lily white in the Middle East was HOW THEY KNEW HE WAS THE SON OF GOD! HE STOOD OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB! Very Happy

Correct. Jesus was a good, strong, wholesome, clean-gened, pure-bloodied Aryan.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:32 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

rickyroma wrote:
SvZurich wrote:
Oh come on people! Jesus was Nordic! Just look at the vast majority of the art! Surely that bias of those cultures isn't responsible for god's son's form, surely God is White! Just ask that paragon of Xian values known as the KKK if you doubt me. Wink In fact, being lily white in the Middle East was HOW THEY KNEW HE WAS THE SON OF GOD! HE STOOD OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB! Very Happy

Correct. Jesus was a good, strong, wholesome, clean-gened, pure-bloodied Aryan.


most definatly, nordic ftw!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jesus was Icelandic. Bjork is a direct descendant.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Nordic you say? Houston Stewart Chamberlain, who is regarded as one of the inspirors of certain aspects of National Socialism, argued that Jesus was in fact not Jewish but a descendant of the people who populated Galilee after the disappearance of the ten lost tribes. He hints that this population may have had some Aryan influences through the Greeks and Persians that ruled there for a long time (mind that Aryan applies in this sense to the Indo-European speaking people's and not nessecarily equals "Nordic").

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Chamberlain used a now discredited notion of the ethnic make up of Galilee to argue that, while Jesus may have been Jewish by religion, he was not Jewish by race. During the Nazi period certain pro-Nazi theologians developed these ideas as part of the manufacture of an Aryan Jesus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Stewart_Chamberlain

Fancifull notions about the ethnic build up of the Judean population of the time are nothing new it seems!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

How Nordic can you get? Inuit, maybe?
(looking in the bible if he wrestled with polar bears)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jesus was most certainly Nordic.

Fair of skin, blue of eye, and sandy blond of hair, the art never lies! Wink

He was but one of many sons of Thor.
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Jesus was most certainly Nordic.

Fair of skin, blue of eye, and sandy blond of hair, the art never lies! Wink

He was but one of many sons of Odin, and is linked to an aspect of Thor.
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