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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

you know if you can speak american english in india then you can earn lot of money.like my brother Laughing my accent sucks Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

helloween_metal wrote:
you know if you can speak american english in india then you can earn lot of money.like my brother Laughing my accent sucks Sad


in an Indian business or for an American-based company?

I know that the Indian Technology industry is really booming nowadays.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

in an indian outsourcing company. call centres basically
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

helloween_metal wrote:
we have 2 races in india....aryans and dravidians. aryans in north and dravidians in south. dravidians have more dark coloured skin and their culture and language is different from aryans


I just finished looking up "dravidian" and it was a very interesting read. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

helloween_metal wrote:
in an indian outsourcing company. call centres basically


*ponders*

I have to go look into that now ...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

i always love to read about different races...america is really filled up with lots of different races...here in india you find only 2 race Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

helloween_metal wrote:
i always love to read about different races...america is really filled up with lots of different races...here in india you find only 2 race Sad


There are up sides and down sides to having so many different races.

The up side is that it makes life interesting sometimes.
The down side is that it makes life "interesting" sometimes.

Race riots, affirmative action, the KKK, Jim Crowe laws, lynchings, "white guilt", xenophobia, and Al Sharpton are not so "interesting". Confused

If we could get past those stupid issues, it would be great. I guess it's all growing pains.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

helloween_metal wrote:
i always love to read about different races...america is really filled up with lots of different races...here in india you find only 2 race Sad


i truly think, despite all of the problems that it can cause, that it is one of America's greatest strengths.

we kind of HAVE to get used to people that are different than us! i think its fun.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Damn you helloween_metal! I'm looking at ESL teaching websites now. I've got a good job, I'm going to start back to school in January to finish my business degree, and I'm really getting connected to my family and girlfriend. I don't need to be pondering the idea of running away to India right now!

*sigh*

Damn my adventurous spirit!
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Compassion for all life, human and non-human, is central to Jainism. Human life is valued as a unique, rare opportunity to reach enlightenment. To kill any person, no matter their crime, is considered unimaginably abhorrent. It is the only religion that requires monks and laity, from all its sects and traditions, to be vegetarian. Some Indian regions have been strongly influenced by Jains and the majority of the local non-Jain population is vegetarian.

Anekantavada, a foundation of Jain philosophy, literally means "The Multiplicity of Reality", or equivalently, "Non-one-endedness". Anekantavada has tools for overcoming inherent biases in any one perspective on any topic or in reality in general. Another tool is The Doctrine of Postulation, Syadvada. Anekantavada is defined as a multiplicity of viewpoints, for it stresses looking at things from others' perspectives. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anekantavada#Jain_doctrines_of_relativity)

I am sorry that Haloween_Metal is so much against the atheistic religion in which he was born. I respect Mahavira as a great thinker. His views were far advanced of his time. I take 'Ahimsa' (non-violence) in Indic religions as a gift of Jainism. Mahavira was a radical. There was no middle way for him. If he was for non-possession, he even discarded his clothes. If it was non-violence, then he did not react even when village boys stoned him or put nails in his ears. If it was spurning comforts of life, then he wanted to be reminded by pulling of his hair rather than having it tonsured by a barber. He was a revolutionary.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Re: Jainism Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

helloween_metal wrote:
.. Also some jains are so fools that they think playing video game will lead them to hell! .. that earth has been created and destroyed 6 times! .. they never use electricity, they cut their hair by pulling them by hands .. never eat or drink!!! after 6 in evening. Sad
Video games are a waste of time except that some people report an improvement in response time. One does not know if the universe came into being seven times and was destroyed six times. They did not use electricity because it attracts insects and we may not kill them. Having one's meals before sunset is a nice custom, good for health. Putting oneself to pain is a nice way not to take facilities of life for granted. Hindu and muslim fasts also are for the same purpose. Do not hold these beliefs against what people thought more than 2,600 years ago. Take a compassionate view. They did not have a hubble's telescope. At least, they did not fall for the God fallacy. Give them credit for that.
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Jainism is one of the few religious sects I admire. They may have their reasoning wrong, and have flaws (but dont we all, atheists included?), but in the end I respect alot of what they do.

I dont get the hair part or tourturing ones self. Life is life, rather its some one elses or your own. By not taking care of your own, the meaning is lost.
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You see, Shiranu, taking out hair by hand was not for laity. It is meant for renunciates. What is accepted for laity and renunciates is 'Santhara' for old people. 'Santhara' is embracing death by abandoning food and water intake and thinking about philosophical questions of life. Not that I would recommend that for any one, but ideosyncracies of this religion. Not that everyone would do that, but that some people do changes the concept of life for others.
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helloween_metal wrote:
actually there are more crazy things.like my cousing brother is vegeterian and that too he doesnt eat onions, potatos , carrots and other "roots". our worship place is called "Ssthanak" it is a room with nothing in it......no fan, no light , no idols almost nothing...there the preacher preaches in Sanskrit language..an ancient indian language that no one understands !!! and once you become preacer you are cut of from real world...you cant even stay in your own city.you have to go to kutch...brith place of jainsim Sad and fact is many small kids of 17-16 years are forced to live such life..... Sad Sad
The room with nothing is no problem. Jains survive nicely with what they eat. The language is Prakrit (something like Pali, a local dialect, like what Buddha spoke) and not Sanskrit. Sure, a sadhu, renunciate, a shraman, has no business to live in the city. They are allowed to come to the city to beg for their meals. They stay at one place only for the rainy season, so as not the kill living beings which come out during that season. Travelling all the time reduces their attachment to people and places. This is common in hinduism and buddhism too.
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helloween_metal wrote:
i always love to read about different races...america is really filled up with lots of different races...here in india you find only 2 race Sad
India also has many races, though it is difficult to recognize them, they are many a times so mixed up; aboriginals, dravidians, aryans, greek, scythians (gujars, ahirs, meenas), tibetans, iranians, arabs, later africans, mongols, kushans, huns, thais, burmese. IMHO, most jains are of dravidian stock, those, who like Buddha, rebelled against imposition of Vedas.
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