Is It Wrong?..

jesuschrshit · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:41 am Post subject:

Respect (like love and trust) is something that must be earned and not an inherent right. So, no, it is not wrong of you to have no respect for anyone who believes in any kind of voodoo, has imaginary friends and doesn't respect you. Having said that, I was raised to respect everyone regardless of who they were or what they stood for but that mentality doesn't work all that well in a society such as this one. In line with my upbringing, I always respected so called religious people; however, they have never respected me. Living up North was easier to deal with it and coexist with that kind but since moving to the Bable Belt, I have learned to "do unto others as others would do unto you" (or whatever that shit is!). The religious right themselves have taught me and shown me that they are not worthy of any kind of respect, sympathy or compassion.

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Mr_C · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:41 am Post subject:

As Moloth would say, if you don't want me to make fun of your beliefs, stop having such silly beliefs Laughing

Srsly tho, why (at least here in the US) are beliefs so untouchable? I was talking to my boss the other day and the subject of Tom Cruise came up.
I commented that I really lost some respect for him with the whole "Scientology thang". My boss just blew it off by saying, "Well his personal beliefs are his personal beliefs..."

I'm sorry but if that is the norm in my society, then I want to test it - to burn it to the fucking ground - because it's complete and utter bullshit. I don't have to respect your fucking delusion, just because it is, afterall, your personal favorite fucking delusion. I don't have to keep my hands off of your mind-fuck as if it is some sort of sacred right for you to believe in complete falsities for the reason that you believe in it personally.

Tom Cruise believes in space aliens and woo-woo bullshit, and if I want to make fun of and piss all over that 'untouchable' piece of shit which his mind-sphincter has squeezed out after years of letting magical thoughts and woo-woo-fantasy in, I will feel justified in doing so.

/rant
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Jutter · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject:

Moloth · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject:

Jutter · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject:

ShaSha · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject:

SalsaShark · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject:

I don't even think it is possible to respect a belief. I'm old school and I think the only thing you can respect if a fellow human being (or a sentient alien I guess).

If you take the position that respect is earned, then somehow a belief must earn respect. Now, suppose you hear good arguments for a belief, what then are you respecting, the belief or the person arguing for it? Suppose you hear bad arguments for a belief, once again who are you losing respect for, the belief or the person arguing in favour of it? In both cases, my respect/lack thereof goes entirely to the person and not the belief. The belief itself obviously cannot be earning respect because the person is arguing for it.

Now as far as I can see that only leaves beliefs that inherently deserve respect. But then it's respect wasn't earned, and we have a contradiction.

All in all I think you can respect people based on their beliefs and their ability to argue for them, but respecting the belief itself just seems like a waste of time/incoherent to me. Furthermore, since this Christian could not defend his beliefs and tried to make you feel bad when you could defend your belief, he doesn't have my respect.
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Mr_C · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject:

ChrissyFos · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject:

Tom Cruise is crazy, but he still gets mad props for being so great in Vanilla Sky. I love that movie. TECH SUPPORT! TEEEECH SUPPOOOOORT!
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lumpymunk · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject:

Raskolnikov · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject:

Bukaj · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject:

Respect in the sense of understanding another's motives for doing something is one thing.

Respect in the sense of being wary of the fury of the sea or the danger of a wild animal is another altogether.

Nowadays 'respect' for religion is more out of fear than anything.
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ShaSha · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject:

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