is it a sin to speak to an Atheist for a beliver

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I Heard it was?
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pjanzen · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject:

I have never heard of that, but then again I do not hang around too many believers...
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monty · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject:

Doesn't seem like it would be according to the Evangelicals, Mormons, or Catholics - they've been doing "missionary" work for a long, long time to the so-called unbelievers.

An interesting fact in your original question is that to the "believers" the phrase "non-believer" really means "anyone who believes anything else".
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tonyman1989 · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject:

I heard that it was in Christianity.

non-beliver= I meant atheist
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benyjets23 · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject:

Even if you assume for the sake of discussion that within modern Christianity it is taken to be a sin to speak to an atheist, a reasonable retort would go somthing like this:

"When you consider Jesus in his first century context, and you compare him to other kingdom movements at the time you realize one important difference. The groups of people in which Jesus touched, healed and fellowshiped with through out the Gospels, were the SAME people other kingdom moevemnts at the time EXCLUDED from fellowship. Given Christs tendency to fellow ship with 1st century outcasts, would it not make sense for believers following Jesus in the 21st century to refuse to operate under a clean/unlean paradigm when it comes to social relationships?"

Just an historicized response. Indebted to the Works of N.T. Wright.

Ben

Jutter · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject:

benyjets23 · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject:

Jutter,

I think whether something makes sense or not especially comes into play when our doctrine cross's over and becomes an issue of following Christ via orthopraxy. A missed angle of the new Testament is that God does not enlighten our view of Jesus, its the other way around. It is Jesus who is the image of the invisible God. Jesus illuminates our view of God.

The question Tony asked, in my opinion is more about orthopraxy as opposed to orthodoxy. It is asking the question of Christians what does following Jesus mean for you when it comes to atheists. Can you be in dialogue and friendship with those who you disagree? To say no puts us in the camp with competing first century kingdom movements, not with Christ.

Ben

Specus_Meretricis · Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject:

I one time heard in church that "Do not plow with an ox and a donkey yoked together." (Deuteronomy 22:10 NIV) and that it was interpreted to not marry, be friends with , do business with non believers. Based on how most Christans seem to operate, this isn't really enforced.
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hillbillyatheist · Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject:

2 Corinthians 6:14-15 (King James Version)

14: Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15: And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

2 John 1:7-11 (King James Version)

7: For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

8: Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.

9: Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

10: If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

11: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

fjord_byron · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: sounds like a cult

Cults apply this rule of thumb too. Makes one wonder....... Rolling Eyes

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Moloth · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject:

well, it doesn't really matter what YOU say now does it, atheod?

To interpret the Holy Word of God and twist it for your own means and comforts is a sin.
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