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| Paulheys wrote: | | If a being or whatever came to me and said ''i'm God'' my reply, like any self respecting person would be ''prove it'' |
and if he did? not a set up, truly curious, many herer answer they still would not follow him, my money says different 
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| Newman wrote: | | Paulheys wrote: | | If a being or whatever came to me and said ''i'm God'' my reply, like any self respecting person would be ''prove it'' |
and if he did? not a set up, truly curious, many herer answer they still would not follow him, my money says different |
that would be very interesting. And if a being could prove itself to be god (honestly, I cannot think of a single way to sufficiently test that hypothesis 'this being is god' - arthur c clake's third law of prediction and occum's razor interacting in the way they do.), then the hypothesis of 'there is no god' would have to be discarded or modified (to, 'there exists a god with the following attributes')
Also I'd call him a bastard for setting the universe up the way it is, and for creating humans the way they are. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| enneract wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | Paulheys wrote: | | If a being or whatever came to me and said ''i'm God'' my reply, like any self respecting person would be ''prove it'' |
and if he did? not a set up, truly curious, many herer answer they still would not follow him, my money says different |
that would be very interesting. And if a being could prove itself to be god (honestly, I cannot think of a single way to sufficiently test that hypothesis 'this being is god' - arthur c clake's third law of prediction and occum's razor interacting in the way they do.), then the hypothesis of 'there is no god' would have to be discarded or modified (to, 'there exists a god with the following attributes')
Also I'd call him a bastard for setting the universe up the way it is, and for creating humans the way they are. |
for some reason thought you would have a different answer but hey, like most here, your answer is interesting, in a situation where you meet your creator, you meet the being that thought you up, brought you in, and saves you, yet you first reaction would be to reprimand him....
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| Newman wrote: | | enneract wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | Paulheys wrote: | | If a being or whatever came to me and said ''i'm God'' my reply, like any self respecting person would be ''prove it'' |
and if he did? not a set up, truly curious, many herer answer they still would not follow him, my money says different |
that would be very interesting. And if a being could prove itself to be god (honestly, I cannot think of a single way to sufficiently test that hypothesis 'this being is god' - arthur c clake's third law of prediction and occum's razor interacting in the way they do.), then the hypothesis of 'there is no god' would have to be discarded or modified (to, 'there exists a god with the following attributes')
Also I'd call him a bastard for setting the universe up the way it is, and for creating humans the way they are. |
for some reason thought you would have a different answer but hey, like most here, your answer is interesting, in a situation where you meet your creator, you meet the being that thought you up, brought you in, and saves you, yet you first reaction would be to reprimand him.... |
(for the sake of argument, assuming this hypothetical situation where god exists)
well, for an omnipotent being, he set up a really terrible, overly circuitous system which depends on the willful denial of the single primary attribute seperating us from nonsentients... if that doesn't deserve a reprimand, I don't know what does. Furthermore, the god portrayed in the christian bible is little more than a sadistic cosmic bully, who, if it turned out was actually my creator, I would be supremely ashamed of. |
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Newman
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| enneract wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | enneract wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | Paulheys wrote: | | If a being or whatever came to me and said ''i'm God'' my reply, like any self respecting person would be ''prove it'' |
and if he did? not a set up, truly curious, many herer answer they still would not follow him, my money says different |
that would be very interesting. And if a being could prove itself to be god (honestly, I cannot think of a single way to sufficiently test that hypothesis 'this being is god' - arthur c clake's third law of prediction and occum's razor interacting in the way they do.), then the hypothesis of 'there is no god' would have to be discarded or modified (to, 'there exists a god with the following attributes')
Also I'd call him a bastard for setting the universe up the way it is, and for creating humans the way they are. |
for some reason thought you would have a different answer but hey, like most here, your answer is interesting, in a situation where you meet your creator, you meet the being that thought you up, brought you in, and saves you, yet you first reaction would be to reprimand him.... |
(for the sake of argument, assuming this hypothetical situation where god exists)
well, for an omnipotent being, he set up a really terrible, overly circuitous system which depends on the willful denial of the single primary attribute seperating us from nonsentients... if that doesn't deserve a reprimand, I don't know what does. Furthermore, the god portrayed in the christian bible is little more than a sadistic cosmic bully, who, if it turned out was actually my creator, I would be supremely ashamed of. |
I always find it very hard to believe these statement, but I will take your word for it. You will find most people have a hard time telling a real bully to F off, never mind the creator
but ok
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oh, you know as well as I do that given the actual situation, it would play out much differently than any real encounter...
given the christian mythos, the most likely time one would encounter god would be proceeding the moment of death, and you would about to be judged based on impossible, insane, and irrational criteria - of course any person, regardless of their religious belief, would be frantically begging for forgiveness (also assuming here that the conciousness would continue to be affected by the endocrine system after death, heh...)
Lets just say that is the way I would like to react - and I would eventually get around to it, given the opportunity. |
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| enneract wrote: | oh, you know as well as I do that given the actual situation, it would play out much differently than any real encounter...
given the christian mythos, the most likely time one would encounter god would be proceeding the moment of death, and you would about to be judged based on impossible, insane, and irrational criteria - of course any person, regardless of their religious belief, would be frantically begging for forgiveness (also assuming here that the conciousness would continue to be affected by the endocrine system after death, heh...)
Lets just say that is the way I would like to react - and I would eventually get around to it, given the opportunity. |
I agree, maybe a little stroll in heaven in a peacefull conversation with Him... lol
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To be fair if the christian God did turn out to exist I would not worship it, if it gave me the choice of course.
Its too sadistic, too twisted to be revered. The christian God is in my eyes like Dorian Gray, many percieve it as the height of culture, the most magnificent of beings, yet it is horribly corrupted at its core.
Maybe one day everyone will realise it?
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| Hugga_Bear wrote: | To be fair if the christian God did turn out to exist I would not worship it, if it gave me the choice of course.
Its too sadistic, too twisted to be revered. The christian God is in my eyes like Dorian Gray, many percieve it as the height of culture, the most magnificent of beings, yet it is horribly corrupted at its core.
Maybe one day everyone will realise it? |
well if He existed as you say, so would Hell, you would simply rather go to hell?
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| Newman wrote: | | Hugga_Bear wrote: | To be fair if the christian God did turn out to exist I would not worship it, if it gave me the choice of course.
Its too sadistic, too twisted to be revered. The christian God is in my eyes like Dorian Gray, many percieve it as the height of culture, the most magnificent of beings, yet it is horribly corrupted at its core.
Maybe one day everyone will realise it? |
well if He existed as you say, so would Hell, you would simply rather go to hell? |
I would be going to hell anyway surely?
But yes I suppose I would, im too damned blockheaded to choose the right path, id rather be damne for being me then have eternal salvation for being a coward.
That hurts 
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| Hugga_Bear wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | Hugga_Bear wrote: | To be fair if the christian God did turn out to exist I would not worship it, if it gave me the choice of course.
Its too sadistic, too twisted to be revered. The christian God is in my eyes like Dorian Gray, many percieve it as the height of culture, the most magnificent of beings, yet it is horribly corrupted at its core.
Maybe one day everyone will realise it? |
well if He existed as you say, so would Hell, you would simply rather go to hell? |
I would be going to hell anyway surely?
But yes I suppose I would, im too damned blockheaded to choose the right path, id rather be damne for being me then have eternal salvation for being a coward.
That hurts |
I seriously doubt it, but ok
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haha, no really I would (hence the oh dearness of my post)
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I would say have faith.
But thatd be a little hypocritical 
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| Hugga_Bear wrote: | haha, no really I would (hence the oh dearness of my post)
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I would say have faith.
But thatd be a little hypocritical |
LOL 
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| Paulheys wrote: | | If a being or whatever came to me and said ''i'm God'' my reply, like any self respecting person would be ''prove it'' |
I totally agree. I mean come on.. show me a series of miracles not "coincidences" They claim God sends "signs" to people directing their path in life,
yet before a human is born, isn't God already supposed to have a life plan set out for you? If God created the way you would live your entire life,
how come you have to "apologize" for the sins you have made when God already knew you would do them? |
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