How Electable Is Barack Obama? aka racial bias and racism

Castaa

I find the discussion of race in America and Obama's candidacy fascinating.

Here is a more in depth ABC round table discussion about what Obama's candidacy means to African-Americans and the nation in general, race bating and winning over female voters.

How Electable Is Barack Obama?
http://abcnews.go.com/search?searchtext=How%20Electable%20Is%20Barack%20Obama%3F%20%20&type=

I found it interesting that there was such a focus on the question of why lower class white voters were voting significantly for Hillary Clinton but zero discussion to why African-Americans are behind Obama. Of course there is an asymmetry to racism or racial biases but I found it telling that it wasn't really discussed at all.

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I live "liberal and tolerant" San Francisco and unspoken racism/bias is rampant. The black, Asian and white communities do very little interacting due to the economic and cultural differences. So if it's this bad in SF then how bad is in the communities that aren't as diverse or educated.
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lumpymunk · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject:

...omfg in before the racebate.

Electable? Yes, people can elect him...
Will he be a good president... no... and neither will McCain or Hillary.

I don't even know what the fuck "electable" means really... He's a Rich White Man with lots of Campaign support from his Rich White Woman Supporters like Oprah.

I'm going to vote against McCain I think... and then criticise Obama for the next 8 years.

To win over the "lower class" (meaning fucking stupid women who are nascar or WWE fans) he just has to pull out that big ole black dick in a debate with McCain, and mushroom stamp that old fuck.
BAM he's in the white house.

Then he'll just pass a law for daily blowjobs from his secretary, to work around getting caught like Clinton did. *sigh*
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lumpymunk · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject:

HAHAHA NO ONE IS RESPONDING

/shit on this thread
*fart noise with mouth*
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Vyrian · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject:

I'm sure he'll make the democratic nomination and hopefully the presidential win.
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Hit_me_up024 · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject:

hillary 08' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Raskolnikov · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject:

jaycorath · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject:

I think its time the country allowed the democrats to fuck up the country again. They're just so good at it and they haven't had a decent chance lately. Plus, after 8 years of the republican party pretending to be the opposition party even though they're in charge, it might be nice for their persecution complex to be supposedly justified again.

I mostly agree with lumpymunk that all the candidates suck. But I'm accustomed to that. Thats how we do it here in the states every election.

wildsimian · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject:

Minorities. Race, women .. whatever.

I'm tired of it even being brought up as an issue.

Castaa · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject:

jaycorath · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject:

hillbillyatheist · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject:

race is not an issue even in the south, imo. it was surprising and disturbing to me, to learn that 25 percent of west virginians fear the colored guy, but still thats 75 percent that reject racist bullshit.

if only 75 percent of the the most bigoted state in the union accepted atheists and gays.

Noggin · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject:

jaycorath · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject:

I certainly hope that most southerners are past racism. I just don't know. Noggin, have you ever lived in the South? Ohio isn't part of the South, right?

I've never had a desire to visit the south. Racism is a huge turnoff for me. I grew up and went to school in extremely diverse places and it always seemed so fucking backward, as if racism was officially rejected hundreds and hundreds of years ago. But most of those anti-South feelings are admittedly based on stereotypes.

As I get older I often start to wonder who is more racist nowadays though. There's so many racially hyper-sensitive people that just strike me as completely insane/schizophrenic. I'm thinking of the extremely liberal sort.

So I often wonder if I just grew up in a weird completely nonracist bubble that is nothing like the rest of the country or whether its just a few regions, like the South, or if no region or state is particularly racist.

Clearly, however, institutional racism, at least in the public sector, bit the dust a long time ago.

Of course, I speak from a "white-person" point of view. At least in California there seems to be rampant latino v. black racism.

Anyhow, after all is said and done, can't we all join hands together in brotherhood in full and complete rejection of the charlatans named Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
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Castaa · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:38 am Post subject:

From what I've heard from people that have attended school in the deep south, it is still an openly racist culture. And these are college kids being openly racist.

The reason why racism is such an important topic is because it is assume to be the voting issue for people. They will not vote for a black man. They maybe then retroactively justify their actions with other issues like they think he's also a "Muslim" or "elite" but if he was white man named Joe Miller they would have voted democratic.

The reason why it's important is because Presidential elections are so close. 1 or 2 traditionally Democratic voters out of 100 making decisions against Obama because he is black could make all the difference.

The major negative for Obama is that the swing states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania are older population states. Those age groups tend to be more racially biased.

Noggin · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:37 am Post subject:

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