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kmisho
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| Imperator wrote: | | Ball wrote: | | Dopey Gigglz wrote: | | If this is really supposed to be an atheist-only forum, what would you do? Debate how you think someone would argue? Talk about them when they can't defend themselves? Truth is, there are some smart atheists here that Trout, Gerbz and myself truly enjoy interacting with. |
I have only been here a short time and it seems that the mods here allow open debate and free speech. I have been to religious forums but was not extended the same courtesy.
I would hope that Christians would be allowed to say anything that want to say here because the more they babble they more the more they lose the argument. |
I would like if there were no biases for anyone. |
"If thine own eye offends thee, pluck it out."
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Paranoia21
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: Re: Hey Mods, can we have our forum back? |
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| ShaSha wrote: | | anamoly wrote: | | ShaSha wrote: | And just a reminder that this forum is not for ATHEISTS only. At the top of just about every page connected to this forum, there is this quote: "community website for freethinkers, atheists, agnostics and believers." As it happens, I am all four of those so this forum is for me  |
Whaaaat? That's a bit of a contradiction of terms. Not that I really have a problem, except I don't think that makes sense....
o.O confused! |
Which one or ones do you see as contradictory? I'll be glad to elaborate. |
You can't be an atheist and a believer.
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ShaSha
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Hey Mods, can we have our forum back? |
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| Ivan_Ivanov wrote: | | ShaSha wrote: | | Which one or ones do you see as contradictory? I'll be glad to elaborate. |
Well atheist and believer are kinda mutually exlusive.
Unless it isn't god that you believe in. |
There is no conflict between infidel and believer and I have considered myself an infidel for 35 years even though I am indeed a believer by choice. It is because of the IG forum and other atheist forums that I also concede that I am an atheist and believer and there is no conflict according to many atheists, although not all atheists would agree. This is not webster or other dictionaries but rather debate or discussion tactics of many atheists themselves including some of the top known ones.
I don't have the exact quote or quotes but it goes roughly like this. Some atheists were challenging theists with "you too are an atheist to another person's god". Or you too are an atheist to the 9999 gods other than yours. We (meaning the dictionary atheist) just have one god less than yours or no gods.
I am an atheist when it comes to the literal god of the Judeo Christian bible as well as to most or all of the gods I have knowledge of. I am a believer in as much as I accept that there is a creator that would fit in the category of one god. |
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Moloth
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Hey Mods, can we have our forum back? |
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| ShaSha wrote: | | Ivan_Ivanov wrote: | | ShaSha wrote: | | Which one or ones do you see as contradictory? I'll be glad to elaborate. |
Well atheist and believer are kinda mutually exlusive.
Unless it isn't god that you believe in. |
There is no conflict between infidel and believer and I have considered myself an infidel for 35 years even though I am indeed a believer by choice. It is because of the IG forum and other atheist forums that I also concede that I am an atheist and believer and there is no conflict according to many atheists, although not all atheists would agree. This is not webster or other dictionaries but rather debate or discussion tactics of many atheists themselves including some of the top known ones.
I don't have the exact quote or quotes but it goes roughly like this. Some atheists were challenging theists with "you too are an atheist to another person's god". Or you too are an atheist to the 9999 gods other than yours. We (meaning the dictionary atheist) just have one god less than yours or no gods.
I am an atheist when it comes to the literal god of the Judeo Christian bible as well as to most or all of the gods I have knowledge of. I am a believer in as much as I accept that there is a creator that would fit in the category of one god. |
She is, of course, correct. you can not believe in a deity and STILL be gullible enough to believe in spirits, crystals, ghosts, aliens, chakra, chi, reincarnation, souls, astral travel, honest politicians, psychic powers, conspiracy theories and all other sorts of woo-woo bullshit.
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rickyroma
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Paranioa you have been suspended for 7 days.
This is for posting outside your designated thread. The time period of 7 days has been agreed by discussion amongst the Admins.
After this time full posting privileges across all the forums will be returned to you. You are advised to ignore Imperator after this time to avoid further problems.
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Trout XIII
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I love you guys, I'm thinking of buying a summer home here.
What are the schools like? Is there a good Presbyterian Church close by? Where can I buy some Black Tar Heroin?
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rickyroma
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| Trout XIII wrote: | | Where can I buy some Black Tar Heroin? |
I make a few hard drugs jokes myself now and again. But I've never actually seen hard drugs and certainly couldn't name a brand.
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Nimitz
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| I prefer the angle white over the black tar. Cooks easier and doesn't gum up my rig! |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| Paranoia21 wrote: | | I was dragged into the black hole, |
That's an interesting belief you have.
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Mr_C
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| Trout XIII wrote: | I love you guys, I'm thinking of buying a summer home here.
What are the schools like? Is there a good Presbyterian Church close by? Where can I buy some Black Tar Heroin? |
Oh, you do heroin too? We should get together and have a rusty needle party  |
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Moloth
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: |
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*squirms uncomfortably*
ew ew ew ew....
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CET
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| FlatEarth1024 wrote: | | Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: | | Yeah, that's pretty much my thoughts. Nothing a good old fashioned dose of ignore can't fix. |
Don't get the wrong idea. Let them fight. I don't care if they meet in the Arena of Doom and stab each other through the eyeballs in front of a cheering mob. What I was mad about was that it was all over the forum. There were literally 10 threads going simultaneously with the very same argument. You couldn't read a post or follow a thread. It was a disaster. |
That kind of stuff comes and goes. It's the ebb and flow of internet forums. It can be annoying when it happens, but it just happens sometimes. When KnoB and sjc get into it, it's basically the same thing (only with slightly more actual content). Only instead of capitalist versus socialist, it's atheist versus theist.
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CET
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| rickyroma wrote: | Paranioa you have been suspended for 7 days.
This is for posting outside your designated thread. The time period of 7 days has been agreed by discussion amongst the Admins.
After this time full posting privileges across all the forums will be returned to you. You are advised to ignore Imperator after this time to avoid further problems.
The Admins. |
Not that I'm making any personal defenses or questioning Mod actions, but I'm not clear on this matter. Is "being annoying" an offense? That's how it comes across anyway, unless I've missed something. 
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rickyroma
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| CET wrote: | | Is "being annoying" an offense? |
No, but splatter-gunning almost every active thread with short vaccuous posts brings discussions across the forums to a virtual standstill, and that's what happened last weekend.
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Trout XIII
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| rickyroma wrote: | | and that's what happened last weekend. |
DANG . . . . I always miss the good stuff. Call me next time.
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