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 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:43 am Post subject: Help save Connie's life! STICKY THIS THREAD PLEASE. |
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Connie Parrot has 5 years to live according to her doctors. The BJBS show had her on as a guest to get her blog attention so the life saving equiptment she needs can be paid for.
HERE IS WHERE YOU CAN HELP:
http://www.helpconnie.blogspot.com/
Snail mail link here:
http://hillbillyatheist.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=94
Current in Carmel
1 South Range Line Road, Suite 220
Carmel, IN 46032
I also e-mailed illusionist Penn of Penn and Teller to suggest that he have her on as a guest. Please do the same if you would.
http://penn.freefm.com/index.php
PennRadio@gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Wait - you're telling me this woman's life is in jeapordy because of $1032 worth of medical equipment not being covered by insurance?
That's really, really, pathetic. I'll see what I can do to support her. Unfortunately my wife is on bed rest and we have a new baby inbound - consequently she's not working right now for a while.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| I don't know how to make a thread sticky either. Heh. |
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hillbillyatheist
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Jutter wrote: | | I don't know how to make a thread sticky either. Heh. |
that's okay, I do , and have made this thread a sticky. |
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Sal1981
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Well, 10 bucks isn't all that much.
If 100 people each donate 10 bucks ...
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I'm just curious.. what's the problem with people in Indiana? If they needed a 20 grand, ok, but a thousand bucks can be made out front of a local wal-mart on a weekend, so why is this on the Internet? Seriously...
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hillbillyatheist
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| Pile wrote: | | I'm just curious.. what's the problem with people in Indiana? If they needed a 20 grand, ok, but a thousand bucks can be made out front of a local wal-mart on a weekend, so why is this on the Internet? Seriously... |
really? tell me how (and leave out male prostitution, and drugs,) cause that ain't my bag.
1000 a weekend, times four weekends a month times twelve months gets me a nice round figure of 48,000 a year, I can live with that kind of money so do tell.  |
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Pile
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: | | Pile wrote: | | I'm just curious.. what's the problem with people in Indiana? If they needed a 20 grand, ok, but a thousand bucks can be made out front of a local wal-mart on a weekend, so why is this on the Internet? Seriously... |
really? tell me how (and leave out male prostitution, and drugs,) cause that ain't my bag.
1000 a weekend, times four weekends a month times twelve months gets me a nice round figure of 48,000 a year, I can live with that kind of money so do tell. |
I think if you can't get a grand in a weekend of pandering at the wal-mart, with or without wal-mart's cooperation, then you're not that good a marketer. I'm not saying it would be easy, but if some girl's life is on the line, and you can't raise a thousand bucks locally, something is wrong. I know people are jaded and preoccupied, but if they just need that much money, going to the internet seems to be a cop-out for them locally tapping into the more obviously available resources.
Now HBA, if you're in the same situation as a dying little girl, then maybe you're onto something.
So this girl needs $1032.
Ok, let's shake down the general public..... what?
How about you shake down the insurance companies? Anyone think of that?
I am really appalled at how passive and apathetic people have become. How they've laid down like little kittens and let corporations run over them. People don't need to pay for this. People need to rally to embarass whatever insurance company is involved.
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hillbillyatheist
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ah I take it you are referring to pan handling. well yeah I guess if a dying girl pan handled, she would probably get lots of money, I certainly don't see why she shouldn't also try to get help via the net, but you may be on to something with this wal-mart thing. maybe she can also talk with people like the Salvation Army, or the Red Cross, as they help folks in need all the time. still though I don't see the harm in using the internet as well. every little bit helps.
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Pile
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: | | ah I take it you are referring to pan handling. well yeah I guess if a dying girl pan handled, she would probably get lots of money, I certainly don't see why she shouldn't also try to get help via the net, but you may be on to something with this wal-mart thing. maybe she can also talk with people like the Salvation Army, or the Red Cross, as they help folks in need all the time. still though I don't see the harm in using the internet as well. every little bit helps. |
Every little bit helps.. yep..
The bottom line is the insurance company can cover this if that is the focus of things. Don't use the power of the internet to pander to the injustice perpetrated by the insurance industry. That's a crime. Use the power of the internet to force the insurance industry to do the right thing, so that the next cute, blond chick that needs some extra coverage doesn't also need to have a little sticky in the forums. |
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| Pile wrote: | | hillbillyatheist wrote: | | ah I take it you are referring to pan handling. well yeah I guess if a dying girl pan handled, she would probably get lots of money, I certainly don't see why she shouldn't also try to get help via the net, but you may be on to something with this wal-mart thing. maybe she can also talk with people like the Salvation Army, or the Red Cross, as they help folks in need all the time. still though I don't see the harm in using the internet as well. every little bit helps. |
Every little bit helps.. yep..
The bottom line is the insurance company can cover this if that is the focus of things. Don't use the power of the internet to pander to the injustice perpetrated by the insurance industry. That's a crime. Use the power of the internet to force the insurance industry to do the right thing, so that the next cute, blond chick that needs some extra coverage doesn't also need to have a little sticky in the forums. |
how do you suggest we measly commoners fight the big corporations? the congress is their bitch, and they have a jillion lawyers and tones of cash, and PR teams. what do people like connie have that can counter that? (also as I understand it, connie has been fighting with the to no avail. |
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: |
how do you suggest we measly commoners fight the big corporations? the congress is their bitch, and they have a jillion lawyers and tones of cash, and PR teams. what do people like connie have that can counter that? (also as I understand it, connie has been fighting with the to no avail. |
I can't believe I have to explain this to you guys...
The power of the internets(tm) !!!!!
You can use the Internet to pander to people to give you money to feed corporate monsters, or you can use the power of the internet to pander to people to complain to corporate monsters.. Have you ever heard of a company changing their policy because of bad publicity? It's happened. Have you ever heard of someone complaining about the way their case was handled and having it changed? Have you ever seen one of those "action news reports" on tv and wondered, "Hey, would this make any difference?"
It does.
Just today, I got a huge settlement from Verizon - one minute I was in debt to them; the next they owed me a bunch of money. It took me a few months going back and forth, but I got them to alter their decision on an issue regarding services. This is the way things work. Corporate america has factored in the cost of making it DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO SEEK JUSTICE in the way they do business. For most people, who put up with the tier 1, "I'm sorry we can't help." they make big bucks. But others who refuse to settle for being told that shit happens and you can't do anything about it, they get justice. It all depends upon whether you're going to lay down, or fight.
As a fighter, I have a principal against subsidizing people who lay down. I'm not going to enable other people so they can get screwed over by the system.
The first step would be to call out this girl's insurance company. Set up a domain like "aflacsucks.com" or "imgoingtodiebeacuseofAflac.com" and post the whole story. Call attention to it and before you can press that sticky button, some executive has said, "make this go away" and little cute blonde chick gets her money. That's how it works.
I don't mean to come off as a dick about this, but sometimes I get frustrated that people are way too passive. They're willing to let these corporations screw them over, and this makes me angry. And it makes me even more angry when they try to pander to other people to help them solve the problem they should solve with the corporation that screwed them over. That's wrong.
After Hurricane Katrina, I had a tree go down in my yard, but it didn't go all the way down - it was still attached, hovering over my house. The insurance company said they wouldn't pay to have it removed because it was not touching any of the structure. Now if the branch falls and wipes out my house, THEN they pay for it. This is f'ing ridiculous. Now I have a choice. I can bend over and take it up the ass by the insurance company, or I can fight back. So I look up the executives of the insurance company.. the holding company of the insurance company, the board of directors and I call them up and e-mail them. The next thing you know, I get my settlement. I'm one of the few, non-pussies who didn't lay down and let corporate america railroad over them... and this is about a stupid tree branch.
if your life is on the line, and you're not willing to fight? Well, perhaps this is a case for natural selection to intervene... no disrespect to cute blonde chicks, but some things are worth fighting for... |
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| that might work. next time I talk with silkyshrew, I will make mention of it, and have her tell connie. I still think she deserves help, but I think embarrassing the company is a peach of an idea as well. |
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: | | that might work. next time I talk with silkyshrew, I will make mention of it, and have her tell connie. I still think she deserves help, but I think embarrassing the company is a peach of an idea as well. |
No disrespect to Silky's friend... I have great respect for all of you... but you need to be tough.. these people need to be tough... don't let these corporations screw you over.... if it's called HEALTH insurance, and refusing to pay for something that might cause you do DIE.... well, regardless of the fine print, that's a PR disaster for any company involved if they find out their customer isn't a docile sheep willing to accept whatever judgement their bookeepers make. |
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: | | Pile wrote: | | I'm just curious.. what's the problem with people in Indiana? If they needed a 20 grand, ok, but a thousand bucks can be made out front of a local wal-mart on a weekend, so why is this on the Internet? Seriously... |
really? tell me how (and leave out male prostitution, and drugs,) cause that ain't my bag.
1000 a weekend, times four weekends a month times twelve months gets me a nice round figure of 48,000 a year, I can live with that kind of money so do tell. |
Hillbilly!
I have talked to a police officer in my neck of the woods. Some background: I live in a tourist trap called the Great Smokey Mountians National Park (or more accurately round-abouts). Anyway, she said that it's nothing for a panhandler with a good story, given the appropriate marks (people spending loads of money on vacations and what not) to make a couple hundred dollars in a few hours.
They busted one group of people from North Carolina that would cross the mountain and set up in front of the various shopping malls and Walmart in this area because they could make in a few hours of telling a "car broke down and they can't get home" sob story" as much as they would make working a full time job in two weeks... They would actually bring their kids along to amp up the sympathy... |
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