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icandothefrug · Intern Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 25 Local time: 8:37 PM

Hey everyone.

My name's Bev, I'm fifteen years old, and I'm from the US. I'd like to consider myself as agnostic, but seeing as my theological views are more jumbled and confusing than ever, I don't feel comfortable with labeling myself in such a way just yet. I've been raised in a Christian household, and I am currently attending a private Christian school (which is prison, I might add). I stopped adhering to the Christian doctrine when I saw what a bigoted bitch my blind faith had transformed me into, and when I really began to examine the religion and saw all of the terribly disagreeable principles that it held. As happy as I am about not being a xtian robot anymore, it kind of sucks that I can't tell anyone (minus a select few) about it and that I have to pretend a Christian persona all of the time. Meh, life's unfair that way. Anyway, I'm looking forward to learning about other people's perspectives and further developing my own. And making some intelligent internet friends/acquaintances/whatever.

Enemy_of_Real1ty · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject:

Welcome to the site! Hopefully we can help you find what your looking for. I was in the same boat as you man, I did Catholic School from 1st to 6th grade, and I'll tell ya what, every one of my class mates is now an atheist, talk to some of your friends, you may be surprised who shares your questions and veiws.
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Raskolnikov · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject:

Speaking of detestable principles how bout that Leviticus 20:13? "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman they have committed an abomination and shall be put to death." and how bout Exodus 22:18? or 2 Kings 2:23-24? Lots of love there!

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Enemy_of_Real1ty · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject:

icandothefrug · Intern Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 25 Local time: 8:37 PM

Yeah, I've heard that Catholic school does things to people. I sincerely wish that parents would take the whole religious instruction thing into their own hands instead of leaving it up to some hellish institution.

Enemy_of_Real1ty · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject:

icandothefrug · Intern Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 25 Local time: 8:37 PM

Oh, I forgot one thing. In regards to this:

Enemy_of_Real1ty · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject:

icandothefrug · Intern Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 25 Local time: 8:37 PM

Arizona. There are tons of atheists/agnostics in the public schools around here, but I am unfortunately not allowed to go to those anymore. And I don't know, really. All I know is that my school seems to be very Calvinistic in its beliefs. I swear, the word "predestination" has become vomit-inducing, with how much I hear it.

Enemy_of_Real1ty · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:59 pm Post subject:

Well tell them that god Predestined you to question what the brainwashed masses so readily accept as truth.
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icandothefrug · Intern Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 25 Local time: 8:37 PM

I'd in return be told that if that was the case, I'm predestined to go to hell. Lovely people, these Christian folk are.

Gettin' In Tune · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:03 am Post subject:

Hi Bev and welcome.

You are doing the right thing by suspending judgment and avoiding labeling yourself. If you are not sure, then there is no need to rush towards a label. Just be honest with yourself and examine the evidence.

I am a atheist. I was not always comfortable with that term, but I am now. I am a secularist and a naturalist. I do not believe in mysticism and supernaturalism unless evidence shows otherwise. I believe that god is a man made creation that extracts man's from his natural environment.

Mr_C · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:09 am Post subject:

Welcome.
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Gettin' In Tune · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:27 am Post subject:

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