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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

aitm wrote:
I wonder what one is allowed to do with 72 or 73 virgins? And afterward, do you really want 73 women? I mean, it would take a few days to bang all of em, but then what? Do you have to talk to them? Sheesh, this the most serious of all questions now. What does one do with that many bitches?


Ouch, that got you bored quite too soon. I guess that heaven would turn into hell in a matter of days. Do you think Muslims should be told?
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I wonder what one is allowed to do with 72 or 73 virgins? And afterward, do you really want 73 women? I mean, it would take a few days to bang all of em, but then what? Do you have to talk to them? Sheesh, this the most serious of all questions now. What does one do with that many bitches?


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I like Islam better with 72 virgins in paradise... can't beat that...


72 women who know what they're doing beats the shit out of Islam's virgin paradise.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Heaven is Hell, Hell is Heaven Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Baillie wrote:
....let's assume the Christian god is more than just a tired superstition/scam.


Let's not and say we did. Sorry...I'm tired of pretending. Brick wall
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VinceNoir wrote:
josephpalazzo wrote:
I like Islam better with 72 virgins in paradise... can't beat that...


72 women who know what they're doing beats the shit out of Islam's virgin paradise.


You have eternity to get them to that status Wink
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Hmm sometimes when I feel like I'm 4 years old again I like to think of armegedon (spelled wrong)

And I wonder to myself, why is the dispute between god and the devil taking place on earth?
Somehow I get the image of an old man yelling at 2 kids to get the hell off his lawn. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Heaven is Hell, Hell is Heaven Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Baillie wrote:
Ok, for the purposes of this thread, let's assume the Christian god is more than just a tired superstition/scam. It just makes things easier.

Heaven seems like a horrible place. For serious. It seems like endless, white-bread banality, where nothing ever happens. And not only that, most of the people who end up there are fascist, intolerant pricks who I wouldn't want to spend five minutes with, let alone eternity. Including big G-d himself. Frankly, it seems more like sedation than true happiness; which probably explains why it seems to appealing to Christians, since it lets them turn off their brains once and for all.

Now, flip the coin. Hell, where all us sinners invariably end up, right? Now, I'm not big into fire and torment and such... but come on, you're there for eternity. You get used to it eventually. After that, you get to spend for-freakin'-ever with some of the greatest people to ever live. Frank Zappa, Carl Sagan, Bill Gates, Lance Armstrong, Robert A. Heinlein, David Suzuki, Douglas Adams, Isaac Asimov, George Carlin, the list goes on and on. And the best part is, you're as far away from Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as possible!

So, anyway, I'm not entirely sure why I'm posting this... just something I've been thinking about. What does AF think about it? Anyone agree with me that the Christian idea of heaven and hell seems somewhat backwards?

I think you've hit the nail on the head. If you don't believe God when he says he's good, why believe him when he says hell is bad?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Heaven is Hell, Hell is Heaven Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

atheod wrote:
Baillie wrote:
Ok, for the purposes of this thread, let's assume the Christian god is more than just a tired superstition/scam. It just makes things easier.

Heaven seems like a horrible place. For serious. It seems like endless, white-bread banality, where nothing ever happens. And not only that, most of the people who end up there are fascist, intolerant pricks who I wouldn't want to spend five minutes with, let alone eternity. Including big G-d himself. Frankly, it seems more like sedation than true happiness; which probably explains why it seems to appealing to Christians, since it lets them turn off their brains once and for all.

Now, flip the coin. Hell, where all us sinners invariably end up, right? Now, I'm not big into fire and torment and such... but come on, you're there for eternity. You get used to it eventually. After that, you get to spend for-freakin'-ever with some of the greatest people to ever live. Frank Zappa, Carl Sagan, Bill Gates, Lance Armstrong, Robert A. Heinlein, David Suzuki, Douglas Adams, Isaac Asimov, George Carlin, the list goes on and on. And the best part is, you're as far away from Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as possible!

So, anyway, I'm not entirely sure why I'm posting this... just something I've been thinking about. What does AF think about it? Anyone agree with me that the Christian idea of heaven and hell seems somewhat backwards?

I think you've hit the nail on the head. If you don't believe God when he says he's good, why believe him when he says hell is bad?


but, atheod! you must have FAITH!
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So really Hell is actually a great place that has some really bad propaganda going around against it.

And if God appeared right in front of your face conjuring cool parlor tricks like Gandalf, I'm sure your opinion of him wouldn't change.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

atheod wrote:
munky99999 wrote:

So really Hell is actually a great place that has some really bad propaganda going around against it.

And if God appeared right in front of your face conjuring cool parlor tricks like Gandalf, I'm sure your opinion of him wouldn't change.


because, what would be more likely? a self-contradicting, supernatural entity exists? or that he is perhaps hallucinating or dreaming?
hmmm.. altering the very nature of reality or a simple human flaw? what is more likely?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Heaven is Hell, Hell is Heaven Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Moloth wrote:
atheod wrote:
Baillie wrote:
Ok, for the purposes of this thread, let's assume the Christian god is more than just a tired superstition/scam. It just makes things easier.

Heaven seems like a horrible place. For serious. It seems like endless, white-bread banality, where nothing ever happens. And not only that, most of the people who end up there are fascist, intolerant pricks who I wouldn't want to spend five minutes with, let alone eternity. Including big G-d himself. Frankly, it seems more like sedation than true happiness; which probably explains why it seems to appealing to Christians, since it lets them turn off their brains once and for all.

Now, flip the coin. Hell, where all us sinners invariably end up, right? Now, I'm not big into fire and torment and such... but come on, you're there for eternity. You get used to it eventually. After that, you get to spend for-freakin'-ever with some of the greatest people to ever live. Frank Zappa, Carl Sagan, Bill Gates, Lance Armstrong, Robert A. Heinlein, David Suzuki, Douglas Adams, Isaac Asimov, George Carlin, the list goes on and on. And the best part is, you're as far away from Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as possible!

So, anyway, I'm not entirely sure why I'm posting this... just something I've been thinking about. What does AF think about it? Anyone agree with me that the Christian idea of heaven and hell seems somewhat backwards?

I think you've hit the nail on the head. If you don't believe God when he says he's good, why believe him when he says hell is bad?


but, atheod! you must have FAITH!

That hell isn't torment?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Moloth wrote:
atheod wrote:
munky99999 wrote:

So really Hell is actually a great place that has some really bad propaganda going around against it.

And if God appeared right in front of your face conjuring cool parlor tricks like Gandalf, I'm sure your opinion of him wouldn't change.


because, what would be more likely? a self-contradicting, supernatural entity exists? or that he is perhaps hallucinating or dreaming?
hmmm.. altering the very nature of reality or a simple human flaw? what is more likely?

Quite right, appearing right in front of us conjuring cool parlor tricks like Gandalf would be a waste of time. It wouldn't even prove you're God much less make anyone trust you're good.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

atheod wrote:
munky99999 wrote:

So really Hell is actually a great place that has some really bad propaganda going around against it.

And if God appeared right in front of your face conjuring cool parlor tricks like Gandalf, I'm sure your opinion of him wouldn't change.

well again... given the current massive amount of evidence that magic isnt real... I'd need some pretty extraordinary evidence to obviously move to believing the magic is real. My opinion would certainly change once that evidence arrives.

Not to mention the chance that my hippy siblings could have made hash brownies or something... and I basically eat anything... so I could be hallucinating.

Even than... all that changes is that God exists... and that I have to follow some rules to make it to heaven... which is still in my opinion a place for fully evil fucktards. Would I still want to go there? Nope probably not.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Heaven is Hell, Hell is Heaven Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

atheod wrote:
Moloth wrote:
atheod wrote:
Baillie wrote:
Ok, for the purposes of this thread, let's assume the Christian god is more than just a tired superstition/scam. It just makes things easier.

Heaven seems like a horrible place. For serious. It seems like endless, white-bread banality, where nothing ever happens. And not only that, most of the people who end up there are fascist, intolerant pricks who I wouldn't want to spend five minutes with, let alone eternity. Including big G-d himself. Frankly, it seems more like sedation than true happiness; which probably explains why it seems to appealing to Christians, since it lets them turn off their brains once and for all.

Now, flip the coin. Hell, where all us sinners invariably end up, right? Now, I'm not big into fire and torment and such... but come on, you're there for eternity. You get used to it eventually. After that, you get to spend for-freakin'-ever with some of the greatest people to ever live. Frank Zappa, Carl Sagan, Bill Gates, Lance Armstrong, Robert A. Heinlein, David Suzuki, Douglas Adams, Isaac Asimov, George Carlin, the list goes on and on. And the best part is, you're as far away from Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as possible!

So, anyway, I'm not entirely sure why I'm posting this... just something I've been thinking about. What does AF think about it? Anyone agree with me that the Christian idea of heaven and hell seems somewhat backwards?

I think you've hit the nail on the head. If you don't believe God when he says he's good, why believe him when he says hell is bad?


but, atheod! you must have FAITH!

That hell isn't torment?

of God's Word! He wouldn't lie, now would he?
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Moloth wrote:
atheod wrote:
Moloth wrote:
atheod wrote:
Baillie wrote:
Ok, for the purposes of this thread, let's assume the Christian god is more than just a tired superstition/scam. It just makes things easier.

Heaven seems like a horrible place. For serious. It seems like endless, white-bread banality, where nothing ever happens. And not only that, most of the people who end up there are fascist, intolerant pricks who I wouldn't want to spend five minutes with, let alone eternity. Including big G-d himself. Frankly, it seems more like sedation than true happiness; which probably explains why it seems to appealing to Christians, since it lets them turn off their brains once and for all.

Now, flip the coin. Hell, where all us sinners invariably end up, right? Now, I'm not big into fire and torment and such... but come on, you're there for eternity. You get used to it eventually. After that, you get to spend for-freakin'-ever with some of the greatest people to ever live. Frank Zappa, Carl Sagan, Bill Gates, Lance Armstrong, Robert A. Heinlein, David Suzuki, Douglas Adams, Isaac Asimov, George Carlin, the list goes on and on. And the best part is, you're as far away from Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as possible!

So, anyway, I'm not entirely sure why I'm posting this... just something I've been thinking about. What does AF think about it? Anyone agree with me that the Christian idea of heaven and hell seems somewhat backwards?

I think you've hit the nail on the head. If you don't believe God when he says he's good, why believe him when he says hell is bad?


but, atheod! you must have FAITH!

That hell isn't torment?

of God's Word! He wouldn't lie, now would he?

A God who believed he was good and said it wouldn't be lying. Why must I have faith God's opinion of himself is right?
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