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antonivs Forum Plebian


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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: Half of Israeli population non-religious |
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According to a new study and survey data from the Central Bureau of Statistics, roughly half the Israeli population is non-religious.
“The 2008 Israel Democracy Index uncovered the following breakdown of Israel’s population: 51% of Israelis are secular, 30% traditional, 10% Orthodox, and 9% haredi..."
"...survey data obtained from the Central Bureau of Statistics, which indicated that 44% of Israelis are secular, 25% are traditional but not religious, 14% are traditional and religious, 10% are Orthodox and 7% are haredi."
You can read the whole article at:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3514242,00.html _________________ It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion. It is by the Coca-Cola that the thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion. |
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Castaa Forum Master


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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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The irony is that their country is there because of their religious texts.
But those numbers are surprising. _________________ MY YouTube Videos
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Shiranu Tiki Masta Dude

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I'll admit, that one comes at me as a complete shock. Never would I have guessed that ISRAEL of all places is waking up to the truth that religion is a lie. Perhaps there is hope for humanity yet. _________________ "We dont know if we each have a destiny, or if we all are just floatin round accidental like on a breeze... but I think maybe its both...maybe both is happening at the same time." - Forrest Gump
"So I dropped out of my own race, a race with no finish line, no first or last place. These faces all rush right past me. I turn and walk away." - Rise Against |
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monkeybyte Forum Master


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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Just get the other half that way and they can all pack up and move to Jersey. :p _________________ "Setting people on fire is wrong." -Todd "Squee" Casil. |
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Unbeliever Forum Master


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But if the Muslim religious fantatics find out that so many Israelis don't believe in God/Allah at all, they'll hate them even more than if they just believe in a different prophet! _________________ "True wisdom is less presuming than folly. The wise man doubteth often, and changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubteth not; he knoweth all things but his own ignorance."
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RyanDzundza Sock Puppet

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im actualy not that surprise by these figures,
like the other post about Iraqis loosing their faith, it seems that places besieged by religious fanatics and conflicts they'll eventually get fed up of organised religion and turn into a secular society _________________
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Tormentor Royal Citizen


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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| Shiranu wrote: | | I'll admit, that one comes at me as a complete shock. Never would I have guessed that ISRAEL of all places is waking up to the truth that religion is a lie. Perhaps there is hope for humanity yet. |
You act like it matters what they think about religion. There are people DYING there because of religion. If they are awakened to the lies of religion, why do we still protect their asses? Fuck them. Let them protect themselves. If this isn't about their "destined holy land" then they should have to fight off their own enemies instead of using all of our money. |
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Tormentor Royal Citizen


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| Unbeliever wrote: | | But if the Muslim religious fantatics find out that so many Israelis don't believe in God/Allah at all, they'll hate them even more than if they just believe in a different prophet! |
that's untrue completely. They hate them because the COERAN claims that jews are evil doers. Probably because of their disgusting book known as the talmud that justifies pedophilia and beastiality.
Edit: Sorry I forgot that if I say anything bad about jews I'm a nazi. Pretend nothing I said is there and let zionists kill more of the people who owned the land they claim is there's because they plopped their big asses right down on it without any question. |
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pr126 resident misanthrope

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| Quote: | | Probably because of their disgusting book known as the talmud that justifies pedophilia and beastiality. |
So... Do they still practice pedophilia and beastiality?
Just asking. _________________ "It has yet to be proven that intelligence has any survival value." Arthur C Clarke
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RyanDzundza Sock Puppet

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well the peados and pig fuckers still do lol _________________

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pr126 resident misanthrope

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| RyanDzundza wrote: | | well the peados and pic fuckers still do lol |
Very funny. _________________ "It has yet to be proven that intelligence has any survival value." Arthur C Clarke
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Dawkadoodle Forum Master

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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Half of Israeli population non-religious |
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| antonivs wrote: | According to a new study and survey data from the Central Bureau of Statistics, roughly half the Israeli population is non-religious.
“The 2008 Israel Democracy Index uncovered the following breakdown of Israel’s population: 51% of Israelis are secular, 30% traditional, 10% Orthodox, and 9% haredi..."
"...survey data obtained from the Central Bureau of Statistics, which indicated that 44% of Israelis are secular, 25% are traditional but not religious, 14% are traditional and religious, 10% are Orthodox and 7% are haredi."
You can read the whole article at:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3514242,00.html |
BZZZ. Wrong, jackass. This survey concerns the Jewish Israeli population only. As such, we can only state that half of the Jewish Population (70-76%), are Secular Jews. The remainder of non-Jewish, 30-24% are:
Christian: 2.1%(+/- 1.788) | Muslim: 16.2% (+/- 3.13) and Other 5.76 (+/- 2.65)
And because of the inaccuracy of the polling techniques for latest survey, a large margin of error exists and we cannot hold these results to be credible without confirmation from a statistical powerhouse like the UN, first. Inherent confirmation does not establish the veracity of these results.
[1] "2007 למ'ס, שנתון סטטיסטי לישראל" "CBS, STATISTICAL ABSTRACT OF ISRAEL 2007" (PDF)
[2] https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/is.html updated March 2008.
[3] Personal Research and Statistical Analysis.
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Dawkadoodle Forum Master

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| Shiranu wrote: | | I'll admit, that one comes at me as a complete shock. Never would I have guessed that ISRAEL of all places is waking up to the truth that religion is a lie. Perhaps there is hope for humanity yet. |
BZZZH. Another wrong jackass. There is no truth to the statement that religion is or isn't a lie. It's a subjective statement that holds no power whatsoever as a "Truth." "Religion is a lie" is nothing more than a belief that religion is a lie, not truth- and since it is not a truth, it cannot become knowledge either. |
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monkeybyte Forum Master


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| Dawkadoodle wrote: | | Shiranu wrote: | | I'll admit, that one comes at me as a complete shock. Never would I have guessed that ISRAEL of all places is waking up to the truth that religion is a lie. Perhaps there is hope for humanity yet. |
BZZZH. Another wrong jackass. There is no truth to the statement that religion is or isn't a lie. It's a subjective statement that holds no power whatsoever as a "Truth." "Religion is a lie" is nothing more than a belief that religion is a lie, not truth- and since it is not a truth, it cannot become knowledge either. | BZZZT!! Wrong, jackass. Religion at one time might have been an honest attempt at explaining the unexplainable, but today it has been consistantly shown to be made up shit, ergo it is a fucking lie. Cry, cramp, lactate, protest and piss yourself all you want, truth still hurts like a bitch. _________________ "Setting people on fire is wrong." -Todd "Squee" Casil. |
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Dawkadoodle Forum Master

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| monkeybyte wrote: | | Dawkadoodle wrote: | | Shiranu wrote: | | I'll admit, that one comes at me as a complete shock. Never would I have guessed that ISRAEL of all places is waking up to the truth that religion is a lie. Perhaps there is hope for humanity yet. |
BZZZH. Another wrong jackass. There is no truth to the statement that religion is or isn't a lie. It's a subjective statement that holds no power whatsoever as a "Truth." "Religion is a lie" is nothing more than a belief that religion is a lie, not truth- and since it is not a truth, it cannot become knowledge either. | BZZZT!! Wrong, jackass. Religion at one time might have been an honest attempt at explaining the unexplainable, but today it has been consistantly shown to be made up shit, ergo it is a fucking lie. Cry, cramp, lactate, protest and piss yourself all you want, truth still hurts like a bitch. |
Actually I am not wrong. I'm epistemologically and logically correct. "The truth is, Religion is a lie" is a gross generalisiation which cannot be proven to be correct because you will have to prove every aspect of every religion, incorrect. If you would like to take it upon your shoulders to prove every aspect of every religion is incorrect, I applaud you. However, I suspect you cannot, and since it's not your original argument, you should just back out before you make a fool of yourself. You believe religion has been shown to be shit, ok, that doesn't make something magically become "truth." It is not a fact that "Religion is a lie," however, the statement lies in the realm of subjectivity. For your belief to become "Truth" it has to be factual and realistic, and not your childish hopes and personal convictions. "Religion is a lie" does not meet either standards.
You have no idea what "Truth" means, you are just arguing your "beliefs," and it's pitiful. Shut the fuck up and do something more productive. Shir is a bit more intelligent than you, you're worthless in this debate. |
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