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Going vegan/vegetarian will help stop global warming?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Aridiris wrote:
antonivs wrote:
My post was directed to NickS, Chookrooter. I think he is a troll who is purposely writing vague posts to jerk people's chains.


I hadn't thought of that. Just thought he was trying to be cool. Makes more sense now.


There is no honoring of the sacrifice that gives sustenance. The sources are concentration camps.
Beings life and death mean nothing more than "tastes good", and carefully laid out pieces of flesh in the grocery.
No troll, just reality.
7 pounds of grain to market 1 pound of meat.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

NickS wrote:
Aridiris wrote:
antonivs wrote:
My post was directed to NickS, Chookrooter. I think he is a troll who is purposely writing vague posts to jerk people's chains.


I hadn't thought of that. Just thought he was trying to be cool. Makes more sense now.


There is no honoring of the sacrifice that gives sustenance. The sources are concentration camps.
Beings life and death mean nothing more than "tastes good", and carefully laid out pieces of flesh in the grocery.
No troll, just reality.
7 pounds of grain to market 1 pound of meat.


But it tastes REALLY good!

Besides, it tastes better then wheat.....
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

greyghost wrote:
NickS wrote:
Aridiris wrote:
antonivs wrote:
My post was directed to NickS, Chookrooter. I think he is a troll who is purposely writing vague posts to jerk people's chains.


I hadn't thought of that. Just thought he was trying to be cool. Makes more sense now.


There is no honoring of the sacrifice that gives sustenance. The sources are concentration camps.
Beings life and death mean nothing more than "tastes good", and carefully laid out pieces of flesh in the grocery.
No troll, just reality.
7 pounds of grain to market 1 pound of meat.


But it tastes REALLY good!

Besides, it tastes better then wheat.....


You left too many openings for exploiting deficient neural connections, I'll leave it to others.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

My post was directed to NickS, Chookrooter. I think he is a troll who is purposely writing vague posts to jerk people's chains

CR: OH.Have I mentioned I'm old and easily confused?

Sorry,I'm still trying to get the hang of the quote function. Some nice guy tried to 'splain it me,but--I'll get in eventually.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

chookrooter wrote:
My post was directed to NickS, Chookrooter. I think he is a troll who is purposely writing vague posts to jerk people's chains

CR: OH.Have I mentioned I'm old and easily confused?

Sorry,I'm still trying to get the hang of the quote function. Some nice guy tried to 'splain it me,but--I'll get in eventually.


It's good that you are searching, young and ill informed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

eating grass for your life won't stop global warming, but this will:

http://www.wired.com/science/planetearth/magazine/16-07/ff_geoengineering

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: Inject sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere to reflect a portion of the sun's rays back into space, thus cooling the planet.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I don't eat cows or pigs for this reason. Cutting out cows was easy, because I actually don't like the way they taste. Pigs was harder. I love bacon.

Ideally, I'd like to eat only farmed fish and hunted meat (along with veggies). I think hunting for food is morally better than eating farmed stuff. A deer who lives its whole life in the forest and then is shot one day has a much better life than a cow who lives on the feedlot its whole life. And it's easier on the environment. And deer taste good.

As for veganism, it is so retarded. Humans are omnivores. We need meat. It also has no moral justification. How does taking an (unfertilized) egg from a chicken harm it? Seriously. They're just being dumb. Humans are even adapted for hunting. We've evolved more endurance than any other animal so that we can just track an animal and chase it until it dies. The !Kung people still hunt this way. Meat eating is built into our very skeletal structure.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

NickS wrote:
greyghost wrote:
But it tastes REALLY good!

Besides, it tastes better then wheat.....


You left too many openings for exploiting deficient neural connections, I'll leave it to others.

Oooh, I'll start.
#1: You're a slave to impulse.
#2: Don't you feel bad about being a living grave, supporting a pogrom with billions of casualties annually by fiat?
#3: It doesn't really taste better. There are fine vegan alternatives to just about any murder products on the market, be it imitation crab legs made from hemp stalks or imitation Jell-O made from processed slime molds. And besides, your demand for the flesh of our biological compatriots stems entirely from societal reinforcement anyway.

That about covers it, I suppose, but I have to cut this message short now. I'm off to bomb a research facility. Ta!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

fuck everyone fuck veggies. Fuck off... get a fucking life and a chicken.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

xena wrote:
fuck everyone fuck veggies. Fuck off... get a fucking life and a chicken.


LOL..made me laugh on that one Xena Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Eat locally and eat seasonally. It's entirely possible, and it's better for you, your farmer neighbors, and the planet.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

politicalhumanist wrote:
Eat locally and eat seasonally. It's entirely possible, and it's better for you, your farmer neighbors, and the planet.


When's cow season?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Eat locally and eat seasonally. It's entirely possible, and it's better for you, your farmer neighbors, and the planet.


and cows,sheep,cows and chickens everywhere thank you.


Would it make a measurable difference? Possibly if everyone stopped farming animals for food.

Do we need some meat to live? Arguable;humans are omnivorous. It does seem, animal flesh is the most efficient form of protein especially important when a person is growing. It's been argued that availability of animal protein helped the evolution of our species ' brain..

BUT ironically, the transformation of energy into animal protein is is very inefficient.

Me? I eat meat, just about anything,although I'm not fond of offal. I have meat most ,but not every day. Not more than 250gms uncooked weight ( 1/2 pound) free range chicken 4/7 days.I eat a lot of eggs.

I've reduced my meat consumption by over 70% over the last 3 years, on advice from a dietician I have no plans to further reduce my consumption further.


I guess it comes down to two basic propositions:

(1) Do honestly believe I personally can make difference? No I do not.

(2) How much do I care? In truth: I don't, at least not much. I'm 60 years old, have no offspring. I'm hoping to be gaga or dead before it reaches the point of personal inconvenience let alone hardship.

Of course I didn't always feel this way.I identified the environment as THE most important issue, including global warming, in 1980.

Imo what we are starting to do now we should have have started then. Management by crisis is very inefficient..

I did not always feel the way I do today. I really had no idea of the depth of stupidity and venality of human beings as a species.

We are are self interested animals.Individual survival is our strongest drive. Our motto "MORE!". We are where we are because of what we are. All species die, it's just a matter of when.We seem to be doing a bang up job in making our demise likely sooner rather than later.



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