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 Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: Freedom of speech in the EU |
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Arrests at Brussels Islam protest
| Quote: | | The protest organisers had promised a large turn-out, but the approximately 200 protesters were nearly outnumbered by police and reporters. |
Problems with dissent? Try the EU method. It works.
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pr126
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Europe is threatened by bigots - not by Islam
Europe is threatened by bigots - not by Islam
Strasbourg, 11.09.2007 - European values are under threat, say the organisers of a protest march under the banner “Against the Islamisation of Europe” which was due to place today in Brussels in spite of the ban by the city Mayor. The fact is that Europe and its values are indeed under threat, but the danger is not coming from Islam. Our common European values are undermined by bigots and radicals, both islamists and islamophobes, who exploit fears and prejudice for their own political objectives.
The self-proclaimed defenders of European values say that the Mayor has violated their rights under the European Convention on Human Rights. The freedom of assembly and the freedom of expression are indeed essential preconditions for democracy, but they should not be regarded as a licence to offend. I will not enter into the discussion about whether the march should have been allowed or not, but I note that the protesters’ reading of the Convention is selective to say the least. It is very important to remember that the freedom of assembly and expression can be restricted to protect the rights and freedoms of others, including the freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This applies to everyone in Europe including the millions of Europeans of Islamic faith, who were the main target of today’s shameful display of bigotry and intolerance.
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How ironic.
Those 200 "protesters" would love nothing more than to revoke freedom of speech and rights thereof. The police probably overreacted, but those protesters are nothing more than fascists. Vlaams Belang is renown for its far-right authoritarian bullshit propaganda. They're just another Le Pen or Pia Kjærsgård.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: |
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So let me get this straight, authoritarian fucks who deny the right to free speach, have been battered by liberal pussies who preach tolerance and personal freedom...
How is it that the European continent still floats under the weight of this much irony?
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All the hot air from the politicians is collected and fills balloons, which help Europe float.
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The force of Political Correctness itself keeps us afloat. For Europe to just go ahead and sink would involve the displacement of a lot of water. That water has rights too.
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| Quote: | | The mayor of Brussels, Freddy Thielemans, banned the protest last month for fear it would cause problems with the city's immigrant population. |
Nothing like Government Sanctioned Protests.
It's Ok to protest... with permission?
HAHA!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| lumpymunk wrote: | | Quote: | | The mayor of Brussels, Freddy Thielemans, banned the protest last month for fear it would cause problems with the city's immigrant population. |
Nothing like Government Sanctioned Protests.
It's Ok to protest... with permission?
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That's how they do it in the middle east.
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| cheapsuprise wrote: | | lumpymunk wrote: | | Quote: | | The mayor of Brussels, Freddy Thielemans, banned the protest last month for fear it would cause problems with the city's immigrant population. |
Nothing like Government Sanctioned Protests.
It's Ok to protest... with permission?
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That's how they do it in the middle east. |
And here I thought it was thru fire-bombings and be-headings
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| Isambard wrote: | | cheapsuprise wrote: | | lumpymunk wrote: | | Quote: | | The mayor of Brussels, Freddy Thielemans, banned the protest last month for fear it would cause problems with the city's immigrant population. |
Nothing like Government Sanctioned Protests.
It's Ok to protest... with permission?
HAHA! |
That's how they do it in the middle east. |
And here I thought it was thru fire-bombings and be-headings |
No. The people who blow stuff up and be-head -- don't work for a living, so they don't need to protest.
The shop keepers, farmers, factory workers, taxi drivers, and other slobs who are just trying to get by, aren't allowed to protest unless there local dictatorship gives sanction.
Except for the part about being hung upside down and having your feet beaten, it's not all that unlike what we have just witnessed. That's how it goes with government. It's either an iron fist inside a lace glove, or a silken fist wrapped in barbed wire.
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