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| Mr_C wrote: | | Romans120 wrote: |
I want to deal with your above post more throughly but I only have a couple minutes so I get to that one later. There is one fundamental thing wrong with this statement. Repentance is not a feeling. To Repent means to "turn or change your direction" Repentance does not mean you feel badly for being a theif. It means you stop stealing. So even though God is in control of the man. The man is the object that who's direction was changed |
In Biblical Hebrew, the idea of repentance is represented by two verbs: שוב shuv (to return) and נחם nicham (to feel sorrow). |
Well if you going to bring languages into it
4853 metanoe,w
• metanoe,w fut. metanoh,sw; 1 aor. meteno,hsa (evmeteno,hsan w. double augment ApcEsdr 2:24) (s. next entry; Antiphon+)
1. change one’s mind Hv 3, 7, 3; m 11:4 (cp. Diod. S. 15, 47, 3 meteno,hsen o` dh/moj; 17, 5, 1; Epict. 2, 22, 35; Appian, Hann. 35 §151, Mithrid. 58 §238; Stob., Ecl. II 113, 5ff W.; PSI 495, 9 [258 BC]; Jos., Vi. 110; 262), then
2. feel remorse, repent, be converted (in a variety of relationships and in connection w. varied responsibilities, moral, political, social or religious: X., Hell. 1, 7, 19 ouv metanoh,santej u[steron eu`rh,sete sfa/j auvtou.j h`marthko,taj ta. me,gista evj qeou,j te kai. u`ma/j auvtou,j= instead of realizing too late that you have grossly sinned against the gods; Plut., Vi. Camill. 143 [29, 3], Galba 1055 [6, 4], also Mor. 74c; M. Ant. 8, 2 and 53; Ps.-Lucian, De Salt. 84 metanoh/sai evfV oi-j evpoi,hsen; Herm. Wr. 1, 28; OGI 751, 9 [II BC] qewrw/n ou=n u`ma/j metanenohko,taj te evpi. toi/j prohmarthme,noij; SIG 1268, 2, 8 [III BC] a`martw.n metano,ei; PSI 495, 9 [258/257 BC]; BGU 747 I, 11; 1024 IV, 25; PTebt 424, 5; {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ISA.46:8')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Is 46:8;}}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_JER.8:6')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Jer 8:6;}}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_SIR.17:24')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Sir 17:24; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_SIR.48:15')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 48:15; }}}\cf1\ulnone oft. Test12 Patr [s. index]; Philo [s. meta,noia]; Jos., Bell. 5, 415, Ant. 7, 153; 320; Just.) in (religio-)ethical sense evn sa,kkw| kai. spodw/| m. repent in sackcloth and ashes {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAT.11:21')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Mt 11:21; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.10:13')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Lk 10:13. }}}\cf1\ulnone As a prerequisite for experiencing the Reign of God in the preaching of John the Baptist and Jesus {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAT.3:2')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Mt 3:2; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAT.4:17')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 4:17; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAR.1:15')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Mk 1:15. }}}\cf1\ulnone As the subject of the disciples’ proclamation {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAR.6:12')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 6:12; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.17:30')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Ac 17:30; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.26:20')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 26:20. }}}\cf1\ulnone Failure to repent leads to destruction {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.13:3')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Lk 13:3, }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.13:5')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 5; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAT.11:20')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Mt 11:20 }}}\cf1\ulnone (h' … metanoh,swsin h' evpimei,nantej dikai,wj kriqw/si Hippol., Ref. 1, pref. 2). Repentance saves (cp. Philo, Spec. Leg. 1, 239 o` metanow/n sw,|zetai; 253; Just., D. 141, 2 eva.n metanoh,swsi, pa,ntej … tucei/n tou/ para. tou/ qeou/ evle,ouj du,nantai) {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAT.12:41')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 12:41; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.11:32')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Lk 11:32; }}}\cf1\ulnone cp. {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.15:7')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 15:7, }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.15:10')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 10; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.16:30')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 16:30. }}}\cf1\ulnone m. eivj to. kh,rugma, tinoj repent at or because of someone’s proclamation {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAT.12:41')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Mt 12:41; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.11:32')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Lk 11:32 }}}\cf1\ulnone (B-D-F §207, 1; Rob. 593; s. eivj 10a). W. evpi, tini to denote the reason repent of, because of someth. (Chariton 3, 3, 11; Ps.-Lucian, Salt. 84; M. Ant. 8, 2; 10; 53; {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_JOE.2:13')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Jo 2:13;}}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_JON.3:10')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Jon 3:10; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_JON.4:2')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 4:2; }}}\cf1\ulnone Am {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_AMO.7:3')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 7:3, }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_AMO.7:6')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 6; }}}\cf1\ulnone Prayer of Manasseh [=Odes 12] 7; TestJud 15:4; Philo, Virt. 180; Jos., Ant. 7, 264; Just., D. 95, 3.—B-D-F §235, 2) evpi. th/| avkaqarsi,a| of their immorality {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_2CO.12:21')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 2 Cor 12:21. }}}\cf1\ulnone evpi. toi/j a`marth,masin of their sins 1 Cl 7:7 (Just., D. 141, 2; cp. OGI 751, 9f). evpi, w. subst. inf. foll. MPol 7:3 (Just., D. 123, 6). Also dia, ti Hv 3, 7, 2. Since in m. the negative impulse of turning away is dominant, it is also used w. avpo, tinojÇ repent and turn away from someth. avpo. th/j kaki,aj ({\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_JER.8:6')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Jer 8:6; }}}\cf1\ulnone Just., D. 109, 1) {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.8:22')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Ac 8:22 }}}\cf1\ulnone (MWilcox, The Semitisms of Ac, ’65, 102-105). avpo. th/j avnomi,aj 1 Cl 8:3 (quot. of unknown orig.). Also e;k tinoj {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.2:21')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Rv 2:21b, }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.2:22')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 22; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.9:20')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 9:20f; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.16:11')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 16:11. }}}\cf1\ulnone W. evpistre,fein evpi. to.n qeo,n {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.26:20')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Ac 26:20. }}}\cf1\ulnone m. eivj e`no,thta qeou/ turn in repentance to the unity of God (which precludes all disunity) IPhld 8:1b; cp. ISm 9:1. But m. eivj to. pa,qoj repent of the way they think about the suffering (of Christ, which the Docetists deny) 5:3. W. inf. foll. {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.16:9')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Rv 16:9. }}}\cf1\ulnone W. o[ti foll. repent because or that (Jos., Ant. 2, 315) Hm 10, 2, 3. W. adv. avdista,ktwj s 8, 10, 3. bradu,teron s 8, 7, 3; 8, 8, 3b. puknw/j m 11:4. tacu, Hs 8, 7, 5; 8, 8, 3a; 5b; 8, 10, 1; 9, 19, 2; 9, 21, 4; 9, 23, 2c. m. evx o[lhj $th/j% kardi,aj repent w. the whole heart 2 Cl 8:2; 17:1; 19:1; Hv 1, 3, 2; 2, 2, 4; 3, 13, 4b; 4, 2, 5; m 5, 1, 7; 12, 6, 1; s 7:4; 8, 11, 3. m. evx eivlikrinou/j kardi,aj repent w. a sincere heart 2 Cl 9:8.—The word is found further, and used abs. (Diod. S. 13, 53, 3; Epict., En 34; Oenomaus [time of Hadrian] in Eus., PE 5, 19, 1 metanoei/te as directive; Philo, Mos. 2, 167 al.; Jos., Ant. 2, 322; Just., D. 12, 2; Theoph. Ant. 3, 24 [p. 254, 17]; eiv h;kousan metanoh,santej, ouvk evph,geto o` kataklusmo,j Did., Gen. 186, 9; a`martwlo.j … pro.j to/ metanoei/n poreuo,menoj Orig., C. Cels 3, 64, 5) {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.17:3')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Lk 17:3f; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.2:38')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Ac 2:38; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.3:19')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 3:19; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.2:5')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Rv 2:5a }}}\cf1\ulnone (Vi. Aesopi G 85 P. metano,hson=take counsel with yourself), vs. {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.2:5')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 5b, }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.2:16')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 16, }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.2:21')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 21; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.3:3')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 3:3, }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_REV.3:19')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 19; }}}\cf1\ulnone 2 Cl 8:1, 2, 3; 13:1; 15:1; 16:1; IPhld 3:2; 8:1a; ISm 4:1; Hv 1, 1, 9; 3, 3, 2; 3, 5, 5; 3, 7, 6; 3, 13, 4a; 5:7; m 4, 1, 5; 7ff; 4, 2, 2; 4, 3, 6; 9:6; 10, 2, 4; 12, 3, 3; s 4:4; 6, 1, 3f; 6, 3, 6; 6, 5, 7; 7:2; 4f; 8, 6, 1ff; 8, 7, 2f; 8, 8, 2; 5a; 8, 9, 2; 4; 8, 11, 1f; 9, 14, 1f; 9, 20, 4; 9, 22, 3f; 9, 23, 2; 5; 9, 26, 6; 8; D 10:6; 15:3; PtK 3 p. 15, 11; 27.—S. also MPol 9:2; 11:1f, in the sense regret having become a Christian; AcPl Ha 1, 17.—Windisch, Exc. on 2 Cor 7:10 p. 233f; Norden, Agn. Th. 134ff; FShipham, ET 46, ’35, 277-80; EDietrich, D. Umkehr (Bekehrg. u. Busse) im AT u. im Judent. b. bes. Berücksichtigg. der ntl. Zeit ’36; HPohlmann, D. Metanoia ’38; OMichel, EvTh 5, ’38, 403-14; BPoschmann, Paenitentia secunda ’40, 1-205 (NT and Apost. Fathers).—On the distinctive character of NT usage s. Thompson 28f, s.v. metame,lomai, end.—B. 1123. DELG s.v. no,oj. M-M. TW. Spicq.
4854 meta,noia
• meta,noia, aj, h` (metanoe,w) prim. ‘a change of mind’ (Thu. 3, 36, 4; Polyb. 4, 66, 7; Appian, Mithrid. 16 §57; pap [s. New Docs 4, 160; Spicq II 475, 17]; TestSol 12:3 C; JosAs, ApcSed; ApcMos 32; Jos., C. Ap. 1, 274, Ant. 16, 125; Just., Tat.), also w. the nuance of ‘remorse’ (as regret for shortcomings and errors: Batr. 69; Lycon the Peripatetic [III BC], fgm. 23 Wehrli [in Diog. L. 5, 66]; Polyb. 18, 33, 7; Stoic. III 147, ln. 21f; Cebes 10, 4; 11, 1; Plut., Mor. 56a; 68f; 961d, Alex. 11, 4, Mar. 10, 4; 39, 3; Chariton 1, 3, 7; Appian, Liby. 52 §225; 102 §482; 116 §553; M. Ant. 8, 10; Ps.-Lucian, Calumn. 5; Jos., Ant. 13, 314. Of the ‘remorse’ of Sophia Iren. 1, 3, 1 [Harv. I 24, 7]); in our lit. w. focus on the need of change in view of responsibility to deity (cp. Hierocles 14, 451; {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_SIR.44:16')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Sir 44:16; }}}\cf1\ulnone Wsd {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_WIS.12:10')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 12:10, }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_WIS.12:19')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 19; }}}\cf1\ulnone Prayer of Manasseh [=Odes 12] 8; Philo, Det. Pot. Ins. 96, Spec. Leg. 1, 58, Virt. 175ff [peri. metanoi,aj] al.; EpArist 188; Jos., Ant. 9, 176; TestReub 2:1; TestJud 19:2; TestGad 5:7f; JosAs 15:6ff; 16:7; ApcSed prol.: peri. avga,phj kai. peri. m.; 14:3 evn metanoi,aij; SibOr 1, 129; 168; Iren. 1, 21, 2 [Harv. 182, 7]; Orig., C. Cels. 7, 57, 3f; Did., Gen. 97, 15) repentance, turning about, conversion; as a turning away meta,noia avpo. nekrw/n e;rgwn turning away from dead works {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_HEB.6:1')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Hb 6:1. }}}\cf1\ulnone Mostly of the positive side of repentance, as the beginning of a new relationship with God: h` eivj qeo.u m. repentance that leads to God {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.20:21')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Ac 20:21. }}}\cf1\ulnone a;xia th/j metanoi,aj e;rga deeds that are consistent with repentance {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.26:20')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 26:20. }}}\cf1\ulnone Also karpo.n a;xion th/j m. {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAT.3:8')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Mt 3:8; }}}\cf1\ulnone cp. {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.3:8')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Lk 3:8. }}}\cf1\ulnone bapti,zein eivj m. baptize for repentance {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAT.3:11')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Mt 3:11 }}}\cf1\ulnone (s. bapti,zw 2a; also eivj 10a). ba,ptisma metanoi,aj {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAR.1:4')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Mk 1:4; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.3:3')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Lk 3:3; }}}\cf1\ulnone cp. {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.13:24')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Ac 13:24; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.19:4')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 19:4 }}}\cf1\ulnone (alt. loutrou/ … th/j m. Just., D. 14, 1) crei,an e;cein metanoi,aj need repentance or conversion {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.15:7')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Lk 15:7. }}}\cf1\ulnone khru,ssein m. eivj a;fesin a`martiw/n preach repentance that leads to the forgiveness of sins {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.24:47')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 24:47 }}}\cf1\ulnone (meta,noian kai. a;fesin a`martiw/n dia. … loutrou/ palliggenesi,aj Theoph. Ant. 2, 16 [p. 140. 8f]); cp. 1 Cl 7:6. e;cein kairo.n metanoi,aj still have time for repentance 2 Cl 8:2. to,pon metanoi,aj dido,nai give an opportunity for repentance ({\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_WIS.12:10')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Wsd 12:10; }}}\cf1\ulnone cp. i[na meta,noia doqh/| Did., Gen. 169, 4; avformh.n metanoi,aj kai. evxomologh,sewj para,scein Theoph. Ant. 2, 29 [p. 170, 17]) 1 Cl 7:5. metanoi,aj to,pon eu`ri,skein {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_HEB.12:17')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Hb 12:17 }}}\cf1\ulnone (cp. metanoi,aj to,pon e;cein Tat. 15:3). dido,nai tini. $th.n% m. (cp. {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_WIS.12:19')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Wsd 12:19; }}}\cf1\ulnone M. J. Brutus, Ep. 7) {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.5:31')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Ac 5:31; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ACT.11:18')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 11:18; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_2TI.2:25')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 2 Ti 2:25; }}}\cf1\ulnone B 16:9; cp. Hv 4, 1, 3; s 8, 6, 2; 8, 11, 1. tiqe,nai tini. meta,noian prescribe repentance for someone Hm 4, 3, 4; cp. 5; kalei/n tina eivj m. {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_LUK.5:32')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Lk 5:32 }}}\cf1\ulnone (ApcSed 15:2; Just., A I, 15, 7; 90, 7); {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAT.9:13')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Mt 9:13 v.l.; }}}\cf1\ulnone {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_MAR.2:17')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Mk 2:17 v.l. }}}\cf1\ulnone (cp. kalou/ntai auvtou.j evpi. m. kai. dio,rqwsin th/j yuch/j auvtw/n Orig., C. Cels. 3, 62, 3). peri. metanoi,aj lalei/n 1 Cl 8:1. avkou,santej tau,thn th.n meta,noian when they heard of this repentance Hs 8, 10, 3; paideu,esqai eivj m. be disciplined so as to repent 1 Cl 57:1. eivj m. a;gein tina, (EpArist 188; Jos., Ant. 4, 144; cp. Appian, Bell. Civ. 2, 63 §262 qeou/ sfa/j evpi. meta,noian a;gontoj) {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_ROM.2:4')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Ro 2:4; }}}\cf1\ulnone avnakaini,zein eivj m. {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_HEB.6:6')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul Hb 6:6; }}}\cf1\ulnone cwrh/sai eivj m. come to repentance {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_2PE.3:9')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 2 Pt 3:9. }}}\cf1\ulnone meta,noian lamba,nein receive repentance (after denying Christ) Hs 9, 26, 6a. metanoi,aj metascei/n 1 Cl 8:5. meta,noian e;cein have a possibility of repentance Hm 4, 3, 3; s 8, 8, 2. evsti, tini meta,noian have a possibility of repentance Hv 2, 2, 5c; 3, 7, 5; s 8, 8, 5; 8, 9, 4a; 9, 19, 1; 9, 20, 4. tini. meta,noia, evsti mi,a have (only) one possibility of repentance m 4, 1, 8; cp. 4, 3, 1. m. kei/tai, tini repentance is ready, available for someone s 9, 19, 2f; 9, 22, 4; 9, 26, 6b. evpi,keitai, tini 8, 7, 2a. gi,netai, tini 9, 26, 5; eivj ma,thn evsti.n h` m. is in vain 6, 1, 3. tacinh. ovfei,lei ei=nai must follow quickly 8, 9, 4b. h` m. su,nesi,j evstin mega,lh is great understanding m 4, 2, 2. m. kaqara, 12, 3, 2; cp. s 7:6. m. a`marti,aj rep. for sin 2 Cl 16:4; cp. Hm 4, 3, 3. m. zwh/j rep. that leads to life s 6, 2, 3; cp. 8, 6, 6. evlpi.j metanoi,aj hope of repentance or conversion IEph 10:1; Hs 6, 2, 4; 8, 7, 2b; 8, 10, 2. W. pi,stij and other Christian virtues 1 Cl 62:2. The a;ggeloj th/j m. appears in Hermas as a proclaimer of repentance: v 5:7; m 12, 4, 7; 12, 6, 1; s 9, 1, 1; 9, 14, 3; 9, 23, 5; 9, 24, 4; lupei/sqai eivj m. feel pain that leads to repentance {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_2CO.7:9')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 2 Cor 7:9, }}}\cf1\ulnone lu,ph meta,noian evrga,zetai (cp. Plut., Mor. 476f) vs. {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "BwRef('BGT_2CO.7:10')"}}{\fldrslt{\cf0\ul 10.}}}\cf1\ulnone —W. the Christian use of the word in mind Polycarp says avmeta,qetoj h`mi/n h` avpo. tw/n kreitto,nwn evpi. ta. cei,rw meta,noia for us ‘repentance’ from the better to the worse is impossible MPol 11:1.—WHolladay, The Root Sûbh in the OT, ’58.—TRE VII 446-51; RAC II 105-18.—DELG s.v. no,oj. M-M. EDNT. TW. Spicq. Sv.
C/O BDAG
The only important part is the Primary use of both these greek words for the concept of repenting is "a change of mind" I'll admit there is a secondary use that does carry a sense of feeling. But I think the context of Biblical texts will reflect the primary use
BTW philosophos is arguing my perspective very well.
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I'm arguing that Calvinistic Theology renders the word "sin" into an absolutely meaningless term; one that is both unnecessary and logically impossible within the context of the theology.
