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Raskolnikov
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| josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | I'm still waiting for proof. |
Any proof would be an illusion... |
Can you prove that? |
You just fell for the illusion... |
Prove it.
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josephpalazzo
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| Raskolnikov wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | I'm still waiting for proof. |
Any proof would be an illusion... |
Can you prove that? |
You just fell for the illusion... |
Prove it. |
PROOF |
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chookrooter
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The Hindus call that "maya" , meaning as much "delusion" as "illusion"
Perhaps our resident Hindu atheist could expand---
In The West We tend to refer to personal delusion as "denial". What is real and does it matter?:
There was a faith healer of Beale
Who said "although pain isn't real,
When I sit on a pin,
And it punctures my skin
I dislike what I fancy I feel." |
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Raskolnikov
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| josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | I'm still waiting for proof. |
Any proof would be an illusion... |
Can you prove that? |
You just fell for the illusion... |
Prove it. |
PROOF |
Ok... You are going to have to explain to me how that is proof. It was interesting but I don't see how it proves that everything is an illusion.
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"The future is not set in stone. The future is what you make it. So make it a good one!"
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LakeGeorgeMan
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| Raskolnikov wrote: | | LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | I'm still waiting for proof. |
Any proof would be an illusion... |
Can you prove that? |
1. I think
2. Therefore, I am.
1. I think
2. Therefore, EVERYTHING IS AN ILLUSION
Philosophical 'proofs' are pretty easy... |
Observable evidence would be ideal. Thanks. |
E V I D E N C E
Hows that?
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LakeGeorgeMan
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| chookrooter wrote: | There was a faith healer of Beale
Who said "although pain isn't real,
When I sit on a pin,
And it punctures my skin
I dislike what I fancy I feel." |
A pretentious poster named Joe,
Quipped; “It’s all an illusion, you know?”
But Rask was aloof,
He said ‘Show me your proof!”
To which came the reply; “I said so!”
Now Joe’s a merry solipsist,
Spewing words that don’t really – exist!
He’s got no potential...
For stuff existential;
But his nothing is hard to resist!
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baddogma
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Why are we all having the same one?
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Can omnicient god who knows the future find the omnipotence to change his future mind?
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Raskolnikov
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| LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | I'm still waiting for proof. |
Any proof would be an illusion... |
Can you prove that? |
1. I think
2. Therefore, I am.
1. I think
2. Therefore, EVERYTHING IS AN ILLUSION
Philosophical 'proofs' are pretty easy... |
Observable evidence would be ideal. Thanks. |
E V I D E N C E
Hows that? |
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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, underwhich weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God, for if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
-Thomas Jefferson
"The future is not set in stone. The future is what you make it. So make it a good one!"
-Dr. Emmett Brown |
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Wickedtruth
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Edward Norton is GOD!
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TheModernPrometheus
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| LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | chookrooter wrote: | There was a faith healer of Beale
Who said "although pain isn't real,
When I sit on a pin,
And it punctures my skin
I dislike what I fancy I feel." |
A pretentious poster named Joe,
Quipped; “It’s all an illusion, you know?”
But Rask was aloof,
He said ‘Show me your proof!”
To which came the reply; “I said so!”
Now Joe’s a merry solipsist,
Spewing words that don’t really – exist!
He’s got no potential...
For stuff existential;
But his nothing is hard to resist! |
i enjoyed these
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josephpalazzo
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| Raskolnikov wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | | I'm still waiting for proof. |
Any proof would be an illusion... |
Can you prove that? |
You just fell for the illusion... |
Prove it. |
PROOF |
Ok... You are going to have to explain to me how that is proof. It was interesting but I don't see how it proves that everything is an illusion. |
Tho' the film has many omissions -- it was Dyson who reconciled Diract's equations with Feynman's diagrams; no mention of Yang-Mill gauge theory; no mention of Bohr-Einstein debates over the interpretations of Quantum Mechanics; and no mention of quantum entanglement -- but the film does a pretty good job at showing that solid is made up mostly of empty space, and empty space is made up mostly of quantum fluctuations. Hence, the illusion of reality...  |
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josephpalazzo
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| LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | chookrooter wrote: | There was a faith healer of Beale
Who said "although pain isn't real,
When I sit on a pin,
And it punctures my skin
I dislike what I fancy I feel." |
A pretentious poster named Joe,
Quipped; “It’s all an illusion, you know?”
But Rask was aloof,
He said ‘Show me your proof!”
To which came the reply; “I said so!”
Now Joe’s a merry solipsist,
Spewing words that don’t really – exist!
He’s got no potential...
For stuff existential;
But his nothing is hard to resist! |
Rhyming lyrics are the illusion of all illusions, and you got that stuff right... hey, pretentious poster?! that hurts...  |
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josephpalazzo
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| baddogma wrote: | | Why are we all having the same one? |
That's because God is sustaining reality in such a way that we all have the same illusion...
** runs away *** |
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josephpalazzo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Okay, my running away is just an illusion... |
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Wickedtruth
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