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EvilEggCracker Forum Plebian


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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: Equal Evidence For and Against Evolution? |
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So, we come onto the subject of Charles Darwin and Natural Selection in Biology and all is going swimmingly. Explained fairly adequately to the class by our teacher and then...
He says that there's just enough evidence for and against Evolution.
Now. Don't get me wrong. He's a nice teacher. He told us to always question everything. But is this actually true? I always thought that Evolution was "pretty much fact". Does anyone here have anything to, well, show him up? _________________
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Raskolnikov The Axe Murderer

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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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He's wrong. The only problem with evolution is that it has not been observed, but I will use the time old analogy, "It's like going to a crime scene. Seeing a dead body with a knife in the chest and a broken window and footprints that show a struggle occurred. It's obvious a murder took place, but we don't need to be there to see it."
I'd say just ask him what evidence there is against evolution. _________________ "Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, underwhich weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God, for if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
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Knight_of_BAAWA Jedi Slackmaster

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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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It has been observed. _________________ aa #51, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
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Moloth Coin Operated Boy

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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Raskolnikov wrote: | He's wrong. The only problem with evolution is that it has not been observed, but I will use the time old analogy, "It's like going to a crime scene. Seeing a dead body with a knife in the chest and a broken window and footprints that show a struggle occurred. It's obvious a murder took place, but we don't need to be there to see it."
I'd say just ask him what evidence there is against evolution. |
yes.. it has...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
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Raskolnikov The Axe Murderer

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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Moloth wrote: | | Raskolnikov wrote: | He's wrong. The only problem with evolution is that it has not been observed, but I will use the time old analogy, "It's like going to a crime scene. Seeing a dead body with a knife in the chest and a broken window and footprints that show a struggle occurred. It's obvious a murder took place, but we don't need to be there to see it."
I'd say just ask him what evidence there is against evolution. |
yes.. it has...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html |
Speciation = evolution? _________________ "Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, underwhich weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God, for if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
-Thomas Jefferson
"The future is not set in stone. The future is what you make it. So make it a good one!"
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Raskolnikov The Axe Murderer

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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Oh wait! DURR! I remember learning bout this last year haha. The English Peppered Moth. Nvm I recant my statement lol _________________ "Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, underwhich weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God, for if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
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Moloth Coin Operated Boy

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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Raskolnikov wrote: | | Oh wait! DURR! I remember learning bout this last year haha. The English Peppered Moth. Nvm I recant my statement lol |
*nods*... yup, that's one of the most commonly used examples.  _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
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baddogma antitheist

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It is amazing how stupid you can be and still be a teacher in America. _________________ Join http://www.sefora.org/
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Moloth Coin Operated Boy

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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Also... what is the evidence "against"?
i mean.. he says that there is some, but did he ever give an example? _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
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baddogma antitheist

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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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All it would take to destroy the theory is a fossil out of place, say human fossils in the precambrian, or a nice Alberta point sticking out af a T-Rex skull. _________________ Join http://www.sefora.org/
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Equal Evidence For and Against Evolution? |
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| EvilEggCracker wrote: | | I always thought that Evolution was "pretty much fact". |
Scientific fact, not fact. _________________ "Of the voluntary acts of every man the object is some good to himself." -Thomas Hobbs
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baddogma antitheist

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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: |
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What evidence IS there against evolution? Any? _________________ Join http://www.sefora.org/
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| baddogma wrote: | | What evidence IS there against evolution? Any? |
The fact we let stupid people reproduce. >_> _________________ "Of the voluntary acts of every man the object is some good to himself." -Thomas Hobbs
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baddogma antitheist

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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Oh fuck, I'M CONVINCED then! _________________ Join http://www.sefora.org/
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| baddogma wrote: | | Oh fuck, I'M CONVINCED then! |
Hallelujah! It's a miracle! _________________ "Of the voluntary acts of every man the object is some good to himself." -Thomas Hobbs
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