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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject:
JBCuzISaidSo wrote:
Uncertainty is certain--doesn't that suck? Chaos exists but only to an extent and only up to current human understanding.
But not in everything, not even in enough to note it past "woah, what happened there? Sheesh let's find out."
& certainly not in everything professed to be induced only by some grand all-powerful creator that controls it all for nothing but worshipers, after the worshipers die of course. Be sure to include two coins for the boatman after your passing in your will!
As my Daddy used to say; the only thing consistent about you is your inconsistency.
Exchange these: consistent/certain and inconsistency/uncertainty.
But you have fun with your omni-Zeus-knock-off that I have to believe in in order to make time for my own kids........?
Ok.
But I'm left with the image of a universe sized box of inconsistency that is closed with equations.
In all of this I still can't say what I'm trying to say. I guess we saw the end at the beginning:
One person closes the box of inconsistencies the size of a universe and calls it Science.
One person closes the box of inconsistencies the size of a universe and calls it God.
And both go on living their lives as the always normally did.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject:
isixylixsis wrote:
God is as real and present as breathing.
You can claim that with all the conviction you want... still doesn't make it so. _________________ ~ Let us be reasonable ~
Congratulations: you are paracorrect about the supernatural.
*"If there were nobody listening to gods anymore, there would be nothing left for us to do,...
... then to finally start listening to each other."
*As any gamer will tell you: God-mode is a cheat-code.
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 123 Local time: 8:56 AM
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject:
Knowing God is coming into the knowledge of all processes and the equitable distribution of resources
Along with the walk with God you get the explanations for everything you can imagine as they come.
It's seeing it as it's happening, as opposed to having to feel left out of the loop.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject:
isixylixsis wrote:
Knowing God is coming into the knowledge of all processes and the equitable distribution of resources
Along with the walk with God you get the explanations for everything you can imagine as they come.
It's seeing it as it's happening, as opposed to having to feel left out of the loop.
<-----Sorry, that doesn't touch the quote. But there it is!
OF COURSE you get your explanations! God did it, and we cannot fully understand god! So why bother looking deeper?
There is no loop. Again, I'm sorry to inform you of this. You are not special in the universe. The universe was not built just for you. There is no super power that watches over JUST man kind and answers all HIS telepathically sent hopes and dreams.
Didn't you watch Bruce Almighty? _________________
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 123 Local time: 8:56 AM
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject:
Jutter wrote:
isixylixsis wrote:
God is as real and present as breathing.
You can claim that with all the conviction you want... still doesn't make it so.
And that's where it all falls apart.
Faith is meant to be lived and seen, but it can be also spoken and believed.
But it's meant to be lived. The words come to the heart as the eyes see the work, and no one needs to say anything.
Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Posts: 138 Local time: 1:56 PM Location: London, England
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject:
isixylixsis wrote:
But revelation of knowledge never ends. Knowledge accumulates and builds on itself in unimaginable ways.
That's all well and good until you start reinventing the wheel. A fact does not change with time, in a thousand years those facts will still be the same. You can keep accumulating knowledge but not about the things you already know to be true.
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 123 Local time: 8:56 AM
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject:
JBCuzISaidSo wrote:
isixylixsis wrote:
Knowing God is coming into the knowledge of all processes and the equitable distribution of resources
Along with the walk with God you get the explanations for everything you can imagine as they come.
It's seeing it as it's happening, as opposed to having to feel left out of the loop.
<-----Sorry, that doesn't touch the quote. But there it is!
OF COURSE you get your explanations! God did it, and we cannot fully understand god! So why bother looking deeper?
There is no loop. Again, I'm sorry to inform you of this. You are not special in the universe. The universe was not built just for you. There is no super power that watches over JUST man kind and answers all HIS telepathically sent hopes and dreams.
Didn't you watch Bruce Almighty?
Not, "God did it", but "Oh, that explains the Riemann Hypothesis".
Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 6607 Local time: 2:56 PM Location: Den Helder, the Netherlands
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject:
isixylixsis wrote:
Jutter wrote:
isixylixsis wrote:
God is as real and present as breathing.
You can claim that with all the conviction you want... still doesn't make it so.
And that's where it all falls apart.
Faith is meant to be lived and seen, but it can be also spoken and believed.
But it's meant to be lived. The words come to the heart as the eyes see the work, and no one needs to say anything.
You can try to dazzle me with gibberish all you want, and that STILL doesn't make it so. _________________ ~ Let us be reasonable ~
Congratulations: you are paracorrect about the supernatural.
*"If there were nobody listening to gods anymore, there would be nothing left for us to do,...
... then to finally start listening to each other."
*As any gamer will tell you: God-mode is a cheat-code.
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 123 Local time: 8:56 AM
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject:
Naoryunosuke wrote:
isixylixsis wrote:
But revelation of knowledge never ends. Knowledge accumulates and builds on itself in unimaginable ways.
That's all well and good until you start reinventing the wheel. A fact does not change with time, in a thousand years those facts will still be the same. You can keep accumulating knowledge but not about the things you already know to be true.
Truth winds around itself and the result is the color effect in a bubble, but with things that go beyond 3D.
And the leap from revelation to revelation will be like going from the Mandelbrot set on paper to on the PC.
Forever.
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 123 Local time: 8:56 AM
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject:
Jutter wrote:
isixylixsis wrote:
Jutter wrote:
isixylixsis wrote:
God is as real and present as breathing.
You can claim that with all the conviction you want... still doesn't make it so.
And that's where it all falls apart.
Faith is meant to be lived and seen, but it can be also spoken and believed.
But it's meant to be lived. The words come to the heart as the eyes see the work, and no one needs to say anything.
You can try to dazzle me with gibberish all you want, and that STILL doesn't make it so.
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