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Wickedtruth
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| Moloth wrote: | | i'm pretentious! look at me! |
::Looks at Moloth::
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LakeGeorgeMan
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Moloth wrote: | | i'm pretentious! look at me! |
Sorry...you're going to have to try harder than that...
Tell us how much you make and post some pictures of your penis.
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BarkAtTheMoon
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | | i'm pretentious! look at me! |
Sorry...you're going to have to try harder than that...
Tell us how much you make and post some pictures of your penis. |
Sweet Jebus, do you realize what you've just done, man?
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Wickedtruth
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | | i'm pretentious! look at me! |
Sorry...you're going to have to try harder than that...
Tell us how much you make and post some pictures of your penis. |
That is at least your 2nd or 3rd time asking for penis pics. Come out da closet  |
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LakeGeorgeMan
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Wickedtruth wrote: | | LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | | i'm pretentious! look at me! |
Sorry...you're going to have to try harder than that...
Tell us how much you make and post some pictures of your penis. |
That is at least your 2nd or 3rd time asking for penis pics. Come out da closet |
I'd ask him to post some pictures of his nekid girlfriend...just didn't want to assume he had one.
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Wickedtruth
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | Wickedtruth wrote: | | LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | | i'm pretentious! look at me! |
Sorry...you're going to have to try harder than that...
Tell us how much you make and post some pictures of your penis. |
That is at least your 2nd or 3rd time asking for penis pics. Come out da closet |
I'd ask him to post some pictures of his nekid girlfriend...just didn't want to assume he had one. |
He prolly only dates church chicks. They don't give it up till marriage. :/ |
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josephpalazzo
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In the grand scheme of things, the leaders have to lie -- also called the noble lie. People are just interested in entertainment, they're lazy and generally speaking, they are a bunch of fucking morons. But to develop a society, the leaders have to be able to push the right buttons, to summon them to do things they would never do on their own -- like going to war, build the pyramids, okay translate that one into building an empire, etc. So the rules, via history, tradition, religion, are there to ensure that society -- all of the poor suckers -- have some cohesion, discipline, a willingness to sacrifice for the greater good, and a belief of a semblant of justice. In fact, the ancient Greeks were closer to the truth -- the vast majority are slaves to serve the masters. In a democracy, you don't want to spread that truth -- it would create resentment and energize the slaves to revolt. So our dear leaders perpetuate the noble lie -- it often goes by the name of patriotism, or family values, do the right thing, blah-blah-blahs. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention fear, you know the USSR will invade us, now it's the terrorist threat, or in 2003, Saddam within minutes to wipe out NYC, ... |
| LakeGeorgeMan wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: |
Everything is an illusion, well, I'm glad that you are absorbing some of that.
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Just consider me a big role of Bounty paper towels, mopping up the palazzo cesspool of spilled enlightenment.
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Secondly, my quip are never oversimplified, they arbor deep truths, otherwise, why would you bother to reply to them?
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Your posts 'arbor' something 'deep'...which is why I am wearing hip boots and a mask as I read this...
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In the grand scheme of things, the leaders have to lie -- also called the noble lie.
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Who are the 'leaders' Joe...and when did they appoint you their spokesmodel...does it pay well?
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People are just interested in entertainment, they're lazy and generally speaking, they are a bunch of fucking morons.
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Except you of course...which is why you have the plum job of 'splaining all this stuff to us simpletons. How are the benefits? Do you get dental?
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But to develop a society, the leaders have to be able to push the right buttons, to summon them to do things they would never do on their own -- like going to war, build the pyramids, okay translate that one into building an empire, etc.
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So people would never fight, or build stuff...unless a leader pushed their right button?
Fascinating...tell me more 'deep truths'...
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So the rules, via history, tradition, religion, are there to ensure that society -- all of the poor suckers -- have some cohesion, discipline, a willingness to sacrifice for the greater good, and a belief of a semblant of justice.
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I see...so it's all a giant 'conspiracy'...and all the 'leaders' are in on it.
Excuse me a moment...I may need my scuba gear...it's getting VERY deep in here.
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In fact, the ancient Greeks were closer to the truth -- the vast majority are slaves to serve the masters. In a democracy, you don't want to spread that truth -- it would create resentment and energize the slaves to revolt. So our dear leaders perpetuate the noble lie -- it often goes by the name of patriotism, or family values, do the right thing, blah-blah-blahs. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention fear, you know the USSR will invade us, now it's the terrorist threat, or in 2003, Saddam within minutes to wipe out NYC, ...
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So...everyone is really a 'slave'...and loyalty to a country or a cause, or loving and caring for your family, or not cheating on your taxes...
...are all clever 'noble lies' perpetuated on us poor rubes by the shadowy leaders of the New World Order.
Well...I want to thank-you for finally clarifying your position...it's refreshing to talk to someone who knows the REAL score! wink..wink...lets hope all the fucking morons never catch on, and just keep on building stuff, and fighting in Iraq, for us brilliant, in-the-know, leader/master types. |
You've misunderstood my post. What I described is not what I approve. I'm just stating what most people who are in power believe. They see the people as pawns to be manipulated based on an ideology that has been around since the beginning of the 20th century, an ideology perpetuated by Leo Strauss and the neo-cons. Now you're free to ignore that, and as a consolation, there are millions like you you also ignore it. And no, I'm not hired by them... |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Barbara Smoker, former president of the National Secular Society wrote: | | The point is surely that the only kind of unremitting negativism is apathy, not attack. Everthing that is attacked has its obverse 'positive' side. If you are against war, you are for peace; if you are against priveledge, you are for equality; if you are against censorship, you are for freedom of speech; if you are against superstition, you are for reason; if you are against humbug, you are for honesty; and if you are against mystical obscurantism, you are for freethought. |
Those are some of my values - peace, equality, freedom of speech, reason, honesty, freethought. Other things could be included in that list, such as being considerate of others, extending human knowledge, and justice. I didn't get those values from some deity outside of myself, but from living life in a social culture.
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corynski
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LakeGeorgeMan said:
| Quote: | So people would never fight, or build stuff...unless a leader pushed their right button?
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Here, bulldog, chew on this for awhile, unless Howard Zinn is just another idiot to you:
| Quote: | | Historically, the most terrible things--war, genocide and slavery--have resulted from obedience, not disobedience. -- Howard Zinn |
Hmmm..... could be true. How would you control 350 million people, LGM, if you didn't make idiots out them first? Nationalism and religion are the biggest causes of war that I know of.
But, who am I, just another nerd, right?
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kmisho
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| ShaSha wrote: | | kmisho wrote: | so far 2 points for me
double-negative logic test failed
biblical contradiction of bragging about being rich |
Why can't he brag about being rich? He might be a theist who isn't under the biblical umbrella? Oooooh, he might be an atheist!!! So your reasoning says that even though he isn't a bible believer he has to follow the rules thereof? |
I was playing the odds. I lost this time.
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LakeGeorgeMan
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| corynski wrote: | LakeGeorgeMan said:
| Quote: | So people would never fight, or build stuff...unless a leader pushed their right button?
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Here, bulldog, chew on this for awhile, unless Howard Zinn is just another idiot to you:
| Quote: | | Historically, the most terrible things--war, genocide and slavery--have resulted from obedience, not disobedience. -- Howard Zinn |
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Sorry...but I find it difficult to chew on a tiny snack for more than a moment.
Was there some amazing epiphany I was suppose to have upon reading this pithy quote? If so, I guessed I missed it.
Can all war, genocide and slavery be rendered obsolete...once everyone starts being 'disobedient' in some way?
I must say, I do find it amusing, that the political illuminatti, the descendants of white European settlers who conquered the native peoples of this land, enslaved the native peoples of another land to build their fledgling economy, can now sit around in their academic ivory towers, and admire their own virtues, and wring their hands over all the most 'terrible things' that resulted in their own positions of priveledge and largesse.
I can't help but notice that obedience to 'Academic Political Correctness' didn't make the list of most 'terrible things'...
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Hmmm..... could be true. How would you control 350 million people, LGM, if you didn't make idiots out them first?
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I'm sorry...are you claiming you are an idiot, or I somehow have the power to 'make' you one? I'm not assuming either.
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Nationalism and religion are the biggest causes of war that I know of.
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Groups of humans competing for control of something is the one I'm more familiar with.
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But, who am I, just another nerd, right? |
I don't know who you are, beyond the brief bio you've shared in this thread. But it appears you believe that someone can make you an idiot.
Or are you like Joseph? Most EVERYONE else is an idiot, or 'fucking moron', being manipulated by the nebulous, neo-con, new world order, and only the two of you, and perhaps Howard Zinn...aren't falling for it?
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Sherry W
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No they don't.
Just look at one poster said on another thread on this forum:
Are you saying 'lying' or cursing or gossiping or hurting someone makes you 'imperfect' in some way? How delightfully arrogant.
All it does is makes you 'human'.
Do you have something against being 'human'?
If you do...you should take it up with your creator...in one of your private, telepathic, one-way seance sessions.
I hear tell we were all created in the image of this god...I wonder what that makes him? Oh yes...the most powerful, eternal, lying, cheating, gossiping, cursing, homicidal maniac...in the whole universe... |
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Moloth
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lol, wut
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LakeGeorgeMan
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That's Sherry's subtle way of answering the OP's original question.
It seems atheists don't have any values, because theists, rape and kill and curse and gossip.
I'm sure it makes perfect sense to her...and thankfully...Jebus is gonna make it all better....when he gets home...some day...soon now...all the signs are in place...no really...I mean it this time...you better repent...the end is near...soon...just wait...
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