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okay I guess me and obama have this in common.
I always thought corpsman was pronounced corpes man.
so its not? why the fuck is there A P in the word? what's with our fucked up language?
its like colonel. for the longest time when I saw that word I read it as ko-lon-ell.
kernel? what the fuck there's not even an R in the word?
but while the right enjoys making fun of obama for saying corpes man
the left made fun of bush for saying nucular.
nice to make shallow jabs at folks we disagree with instead of facing the real issues and both sides are guilty of this. |
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Haha, I always though colonel was ko-lon-ell too.
I remember playing Clue as a kid, and always saying
"ko-lon-ell" until my parents corrected me lol.
I thought "corpsman" was pronounced "corps-man" lol.
Edit: Ohh, it's "core-man" or "cores-man". Just looked it up lol.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: corpes man |
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: | okay I guess me and obama have this in common.
I always thought corpsman was pronounced corpes man.
so its not? why the fuck is there A P in the word? what's with our fucked up language?
its like colonel. for the longest time when I saw that word I read it as ko-lon-ell.
kernel? what the fuck there's not even an R in the word?
but while the right enjoys making fun of obama for saying corpes man
the left made fun of bush for saying nucular.
nice to make shallow jabs at folks we disagree with instead of facing the real issues and both sides are guilty of this. |
Marine corpse.
Sounds right to me.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: corpes man |
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Marine corpse.
Sounds right to me. |
Ahh....
lol
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This is why people have such trouble with the English language.
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When I was a kid I thought corps meant dead soldier. I would hear "core" and knew its meaning, but I would read "corps" and thought it meant something else. Homeschool fail.
I was very very confused when I would read about people wanting to "join the corps" and such. I thought they were really pumped about dying. This was reinforced by everyone talking about how great it is that someone died in a war, died for their country, glory, etc. Needless to say, for the longest time I thought people in the military were suicidal fruitcakes.
I figured out Colonel pretty quick though, thanks to Colonel Sanders. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:55 am Post subject: Re: corpes man |
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: | | I always thought corpsman was pronounced corpes man. |
That's how I pronounce it.
| Quote: | | what's with our fucked up language? |
It's a muddled brew of latin, french, and german with a side of greek and so many loan words that we have to raise the deficit cap just to support them all. Add a ridiculous number of homophones and grammar rules with all the consistency of warm jello, and you get a spoken language that's as faithful to the written language as the Mario Brothers movie was to its source material.
| Quote: | its like colonel. for the longest time when I saw that word I read it as ko-lon-ell.
kernel? what the fuck there's not even an R in the word? |
Exactly. And don't get me started on Lieutenant. I have to bust out a dictionary for it every time. French-derived words always seem to have an inordinate number of vowels. Like some medieval wordsmith just liked the letter e so much that every other word has to have like 5 of them.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:57 am Post subject: Re: corpes man |
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: | okay I guess me and obama have this in common.
I always thought corpsman was pronounced corpes man.
so its not? why the fuck is there A P in the word? what's with our fucked up language?
its like colonel. for the longest time when I saw that word I read it as ko-lon-ell.
kernel? what the fuck there's not even an R in the word?
but while the right enjoys making fun of obama for saying corpes man
the left made fun of bush for saying nucular.
nice to make shallow jabs at folks we disagree with instead of facing the real issues and both sides are guilty of this. |
The answer you're looking for lies in the extremely long history of loanwords in the English language.
Since the Norman Conquest of 1066, when Old English began acquiring words from Old Norman French, English has been adding to its dictionary words and phrases from a multitude of different languages, complete with their own pronunciation rules and headaches for speakers of English, both native and foreign alike.
Interesting fact: The initial infusion of French into the language, combined with the Court's preference for French over English for such a long time period afterward, is the main reason why Modern English has so many synonyms. Usually you will find one has a Germanic etymology and the other Latin. Examples include chicken and poultry, come and arrive, sight and vision, and freedom and liberty.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:09 am Post subject: Re: corpes man |
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: | okay I guess me and obama have this in common.
I always thought corpsman was pronounced corpes man.
so its not? why the fuck is there A P in the word? what's with our fucked up language?
its like colonel. for the longest time when I saw that word I read it as ko-lon-ell.
kernel? what the fuck there's not even an R in the word?
but while the right enjoys making fun of obama for saying corpes man
the left made fun of bush for saying nucular.
nice to make shallow jabs at folks we disagree with instead of facing the real issues and both sides are guilty of this. |
Nothing wrong with the language, it's just the spelling system which was designed by mentally defective armadillos.
Spanish and Italian have excellent spelling systems. It would be possible to design one for English too, but the trouble is that English speakers are very conservative, and would riot in the streets if spelling was reformed so that 'corpsman' was written 'corman'.
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Also, in case you were wondering, corps is french.
And as for colonel:
| Quote: | | 1548, coronell, from M.Fr. coronel, modified by dissimilation from It. colonnella "commander of a column of soldiers at the head of a regiment," from compagna colonella "little column company," from L. columna "pillar" (see hill). Eng. spelling modified 1583 to conform with It., but the earlier pronunciation was retained. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:46 am Post subject: Re: corpes man |
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| Andreusz wrote: |
Nothing wrong with the language, it's just the spelling system which was designed by mentally defective armadillos.
Spanish and Italian have excellent spelling systems. It would be possible to design one for English too, but the trouble is that English speakers are very conservative, and would riot in the streets if spelling was reformed so that 'corpsman' was written 'corman'. |
I think its wrong to say that it was designed. Languages are rarely (with the notable exception of Esperanto) designed. Evolved would be much more appropriate. 
Spanish and Italian have better spelling systems because their words are almost exclusively derived from a single ancestor language, Latin. English, being a mish-mash of Germanic and Latin words, each having their own spelling systems, doesn't work that way.
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The Spanish spelling system was modified and made regular in a series of reforms in the 20th century.
Italian has a good spelling system because the literary language hasn't changed much since the 13th century.
I don't think it matters that they are languages which don't borrow much from others (Spanish did borrow extensively from Arabic, btw).
I belive Albanian has a fairly good orthography, but it's borrowed heavily from Italian.
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I don't think English is complicated enough. I think from now on we should adopt Pig Latin.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:57 am Post subject: Re: corpes man |
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| jcarlson08 wrote: | | hillbillyatheist wrote: | okay I guess me and obama have this in common.
I always thought corpsman was pronounced corpes man.
so its not? why the fuck is there A P in the word? what's with our fucked up language?
its like colonel. for the longest time when I saw that word I read it as ko-lon-ell.
kernel? what the fuck there's not even an R in the word?
but while the right enjoys making fun of obama for saying corpes man
the left made fun of bush for saying nucular.
nice to make shallow jabs at folks we disagree with instead of facing the real issues and both sides are guilty of this. |
The answer you're looking for lies in the extremely long history of loanwords in the English language.
Since the Norman Conquest of 1066, when Old English began acquiring words from Old Norman French, English has been adding to its dictionary words and phrases from a multitude of different languages, complete with their own pronunciation rules and headaches for speakers of English, both native and foreign alike.
Interesting fact: The initial infusion of French into the language, combined with the Court's preference for French over English for such a long time period afterward, is the main reason why Modern English has so many synonyms. Usually you will find one has a Germanic etymology and the other Latin. Examples include chicken and poultry, come and arrive, sight and vision, and freedom and liberty. |
An edifying post? In my AF?
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