California overturns gay marriage ban

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Here's something that will send thunderbolts to the Religious Right...

"Today the California Supreme Court took a giant leap to ensure that everybody — not just in the state of California, but throughout the country — will have equal treatment under the law," said City Attorney Dennis Herrera, who argued the case for San Francisco.

Hit_me_up024 · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject:

well i dont see why gays shouldnt be able to marry its one of those things that in a few decades the government is going to look like total asshole and be like " oh are bad" just like with the slaves, japanese camps, jews, iraq.
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Moloth · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject:

in 50 years, we're going to wonder why this was ever an issue. we'll be embarrassed that this require any sort of debate and that there were bigots who sought to enact these sorts of discriminatory laws.
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Hit_me_up024 · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject:

haha i beat you to the punch moloth
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RyanDzundza · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject:

thats mint, if i was gay id soooo be getting married in california by now

although why travel that far when its been legal over here for a while now Laughing

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Castaa · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject:

This is wonderful news.

I agree, in another decade or two, this is going to see like Brown vs. Kansas Board of Education to most people. The Generation Y crowds supports gay marriage something like 2 to 1 from what I've read.

This ruling also puts Obama and Clinton in an awkward spot because neither support gay marriage (only civil unions).

Maybe no more important of story than San Francisco's main newspaper:

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PJS · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject:

In future elections this could actually help conservatives again as more state constitutional amendments banning same sex marriages end up on ballots. Here in Florida, where same sex marriage is already illegal, we have a proposal of the sort on the November ballot. The phrasing is ambiguous enough to almost guarantee lawsuits.
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JBCuzISaidSo · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject:

Absolutely right that in 50 years (or 100) we'll all, as humans, be looking back at this kind of bull as the failure to uphold the progress of freedom, held back only by religious zealots.

But don't go pinning it all on California's lapel......San Fransisco still has a ban on certain breeds of dog, which is creating a group of people (owner's of a certain breed of dog for Pete's sake) and punishing them for such ownership on no more than their pet they own. Confused

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PJS · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject:

An oldy but goody :

In the late 1700s some people wanted democratic rule. Conservative elements of the church pointed to the Bible and said it proved that the king ruled by God's will.

In the mid 1800s some people wanted to end slavery. Conservative elements of the church pointed to the Bible and said it proved that God approved of slavery.

In the early 1900s some people wanted to give women the vote. Conservative elements of the church pointed to the Bible and said it proved that God made women inferior to men.

In the mid 1900s some people wanted to end segregation. Conservative elements of the church pointed to the Bible and said it proved God wanted to keep the races separate.

When you look back at how your parents and grandparents dealt with these things, are you ashamed or proud?

Now some people want to allow gay marriage. Conservative elements of the church are pointing to the Bible and saying it proves God hates homosexuality.

When your children and grandchildren look back at how you deal with this, will they be ashamed or proud?

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kmisho · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject:

gnosis · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject:

The important thing is the rights afforded, equal rights under the law. I don't care if you call it marriage, "civil unions", or whatever term they make up. These people deserve equal treatment in the eyes of the law.

Personally, I'm all for gay marriage. I'm willing to concede calling it "civil union" though, if it means that is what is necessary to pass legislation.

Necessary evil, I suppose.
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