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are you an antitheist
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no
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Moloth wrote:
I'm not anti-theist.. i'm anti-theism.

big difference.


so you would be open to deism but not yahweh.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Moloth wrote:
I'm not anti-theist.. i'm anti-theism.

big difference.


Easy, you're an anti-theist atheist...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

do I want their to be a god? well that depends on what god.

a friendly god that makes life sheer pleasure? hell yes! the god of the bible? fuck no!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

hillbillyatheist wrote:
do I want their to be a god? well that depends on what god.

a friendly god that makes life sheer pleasure? hell yes! the god of the bible? fuck no!!!!


I think an antitheist is againest the bible god not antideist but antitheist.

and I agree with you a kind god would be ok, but not yahwah.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

tonyman1989 wrote:
Moloth wrote:
I'm not anti-theist.. i'm anti-theism.

big difference.


so you would be open to deism but not yahweh.


no, i am not anti-people. i am anti-delusional worldview.

I don;t wish people with theistic ideas to go away.. i wish the ideas themselves to go away and leave the people unscathed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Moloth wrote:
tonyman1989 wrote:
Moloth wrote:
I'm not anti-theist.. i'm anti-theism.

big difference.


so you would be open to deism but not yahweh.


no, i am not anti-people. i am anti-delusional worldview.

I don;t wish people with theistic ideas to go away.. i wish the ideas themselves to go away and leave the people unscathed.


I completely agree, Moloth.




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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

hillbillyatheist wrote:
do I want their to be a god? well that depends on what god.

a friendly god that makes life sheer pleasure? hell yes! the god of the bible? fuck no!!!!


Its really the same thing. Any religion that has a hell can be argued into passiveness using the Nash Equilibrium. Its actually pretty fun removing their teeth.....even if its just online haha!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Moloth wrote:
tonyman1989 wrote:
Moloth wrote:
I'm not anti-theist.. i'm anti-theism.

big difference.


so you would be open to deism but not yahweh.


no, i am not anti-people. i am anti-delusional worldview.

I don;t wish people with theistic ideas to go away.. i wish the ideas themselves to go away and leave the people unscathed.


i'm sorry moloth but I think you misunderstand my meaning.

I don't mean "Do you wish there wenr't religious people" I mean "Do you want christian god to exist or any god"
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yeah I'm with Moloth. I checked "no" because "antitheist" sounds like you're a jihadist for atheism bent on ridding the world of theists.

I do see a difference between being against theists and against theism though. One's a person, the other is an ideology, and I'm against the ideology and not the people that have been brainwashed against their will. That sounds more like antitheism.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Yeah I'm with Moloth. I checked "no" because "antitheist" sounds like you're a jihadist for atheism bent on ridding the world of theists.

I do see a difference between being against theists and against theism though. One's a person, the other is an ideology, and I'm against the ideology and not the people that have been brainwashed against their will. That sounds more like antitheism.


it may sound bad but look at the meaning, antitheist doesn't mean you are againest theist it mean you don't want there to be a god.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

antitheist is the person

antitheism is the veiw there not different

heres wkipedia veiw of it just click here
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

well, i apologize.. those terms confuse me.

I just wanted to be clear about what i was "anti-" about. Smile


If there were a god or gods, i think it would be awesome of they were D&D deities. Heck, you could pray to them and get magical powers! you heal people, cure diseases, and even directly ASK your deity questions.. and get answers!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Moloth wrote:
well, i apologize.. those terms confuse me.

I just wanted to be clear about what i was "anti-" about. Smile


From my understanding about the word it seems that you are a antitheist because you don't want yehwah to exist.

Do I have it right?
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If there were a god or gods, i think it would be awesome of they were D&D deities. Heck, you could pray to them and get magical powers! you heal people, cure diseases, and even directly ASK your deity questions.. and get answers!
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Sorry I didn't get your edit.

I think it would be great if there would be knid god, but not yehwah and that what make me an antitheist.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'm not an antitheist, as many who've observed my recent behavior on these boards can vouch for.

People believe a lot of silly things. So what, beyond the pure asthetics of the matter? Religion's just the main forerunner in the plethora of silly beliefs that are held by people and can cause harm. And those are the criteria which make me attack. But religion qua religion? Meh - whatever. They're wrong, and I will debate those who hold wrong views just for shits and giggles. But do I go after religion in particular? No. I only "force" my views upon those who are wrong and can do serious damage with their wrongness. Nothing more.
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