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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Apologetics and arguments against Judaism Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/guido_deimel/judaism.html

http://www.talkreason.org/articles/letter1.cfm#6
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Welcome Ryan! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Indeed, the jew religion is just as oppressive, dogmatic, absurd, bizarre, dangerous, anti-freethought, as the xian, muslim, hindu, and all other religious beliefs.

The torah, bible, and quran are all of the same bullshit and belong in the trash can.

Given half a chance the jew religion would be as terrible as xianity and islam.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I agree. The religious Jews would argue that they haven't been as bad historically as the Christians and Muslems have, but they conveniently leave out that they have not, historically, had the POWER to be that bad, even if they wanted to, since before the diaspora. And before the diaspora...one only needs to study the Hebrew Bible to see what they were like then. And look at their treatment of the Palestinians now.Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You can also look to how the Jews treated each other when a disagreement arose during the 1600s. Many "secular" Jews were banished from Amsterdam for not supporting the dogma.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

.....its all garbage
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This is very true overall, Judaism hasn't had the same level of power either Islam or Christianity have enjoyed. Thankfully, they were kept under Rome's boot, and since then on, they've had no power at any point really. Israel is the first time in history they have a chance as to becoming at the very least a serious regional power.

And they use that power so conservatively... Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Terrordar wrote:
This is very true overall, Judaism hasn't had the same level of power either Islam or Christianity have enjoyed. Thankfully, they were kept under Rome's boot, and since then on, they've had no power at any point really. Israel is the first time in history they have a chance as to becoming at the very least a serious regional power.

And they use that power so conservatively... Wink


Of the Abrahamic faiths Judaism is by far the least evil.

Islam instructs it's followers to kill all non Muslims and offers them a greater reward in heaven for those who do it.

Christianity tells people that you can be a very bad person but if you are saved or accept Jesus all is forgiven.

Jews of all type are tought that it does matter what one does in their life and that good deed is the only way to get into heaven.

The other reality is that worldwide there are 13 million jews world wide and that number is on the decline. Of the those Jews most are secular.

Israel could lay waste to the entire Middle East and I think she should. Israel would be justified.

Statistically Jews are under represented in prison as are Atheists. The most law abiding are the Hare Krishnas.

Here is an interesting fact:
Texas Department of Criminal Justice, 1999
Source: Peggy Fikac. "More prison inmates say they're Baptist than any other religion." Associated Press (The Abilene Reporter-News)

Baptist 39,781 30.3%
Unknown* 28,890 22.0%
Catholic 23,637 18.0%
Other 39,009 29.7%
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Total 131,316 100.0%

http://www.adherents.com/misc/adh_prison.html

Subject: STUDIES: ATHEISTS SUPPLY LESS THAN 1% OF PRISON POPULATIONS
Date: Wed, Mar 24, 1999 2:47 PM
From: Hypatia SM
Message-id: <19990324144750.02274.00000947@ng148.aol.com

STUDIES: ATHEISTS SUPPLY LESS THAN 1% OF PRISON POPULATIONS
by Wayne Aiken, North Carolina Director
AMERICAN ATHEISTS

It's surprising how many people remark to me, "You're an Atheist? You must have no conscience about committing crime then." Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, if we examine the population of our prisons, we see a very different picture.

In "The New Criminology," Max D. Schlapp and Edward E. Smith say that two generations of statisticians found that the ratio of convicts without religious training is about 1/10th of 1%. W.T. Root, Professor of Psychology at the University of Pittsburgh, examined 1,916 prisoners and said, "Indifference to religion, due to thought, strengthens character," adding that Unitarians, Agnostics, Atheists and Free-Thinkers were absent from penitentiaries, or nearly so.

During 10 years in Sing-Sing, of those executed for murder 65% were Catholics, 26% Protestants, 6% Hebrew, 2% Pagan, and less than 1/3 of 1% non-religious.

Steiner and Swancara surveyed Canadian prisons and found 1,294 Catholics, 435 Anglicans, 241 Methodists, 135 Baptists, and 1 Unitarian.

Dr. Christian, Superintendent of the N.Y. State Reformatories, checked records of 22,000 prison inmates and found only 4 college graduates. In "Who's Who," 91% were college graduates; Christian commented that "intelligence and knowledge produce right living," and, "crime is the offspring of superstition and ignorance."

Surveyed Massachusetts reformatories found every inmate to be religious.

In Joliet Prison, there were 2,888 Catholics, 1,020 Baptists, 617 Methodists and no prisoners identified as non-religious.

Michigan had 82,000 Baptists and 83,000 Jews in the state population; but in the prisons, there were 22 times as many Baptists as Jews, and 18 times as many Methodists as Jews. In Sing-Sing, there were 1,553 inmates, 855 of them (over half) Catholics, 518 Protestants, 117 Jews, and 8 non-religious.

Steiner first surveyed 27 states and found 19,400 Christians, 5,000 with no preference and only 3 Agnostics (one each in Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Illinois). A later, more exhaustive survey found 60,605 Christians, 5,000 Jews, 131 Pagans, 4,000 "no preference," and only 3 Agnostics.

In one 19-state survey, Steiner found 15 non-believers, Spiritualists, Theosophists, Deists, Pantheists and 1 Agnostic among nearly 83,000 inmates. He labeled all 15 as "anti-christians." The Elmira, N.Y. reformatory system overshadowed all others, with nearly 31,000 inmates, including 15,694 Catholics (half) and 10,968 Protestants, 4,000 Jews, 325 refusing to answer, and 0 unbelievers.

In the East, over 64% of inmates are Roman Catholic. Throughout the national prison population, they average 50%. A national census of the general population found Catholics to be about 15% (and they count from the diaper up). Hardly 12% are old enough to commit a crime, and half of these are women. That leaves an adult Catholic population of 6% supplying 50% of the prison population.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Least evil is a relative term. Just look at their current quest to "regain" all of the PROMISED LAND(tm) that their god said was their even though they haven't lived on it in any large numbers in near 3000 years...
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sjc wrote:
Least evil is a relative term. Just look at their current quest to "regain" all of the PROMISED LAND(tm) that their god said was their even though they haven't lived on it in any large numbers in near 3000 years...


FYI, if the inhabited land mass of the world were the size of a football field Israel would be the size of a postage stamp.

FYI, When it comes to carnage, Christians, Muslims, Shintos, Hindus, Atheists and Muslims have outdone the Jews by a long shot.

Ever time they defend themselves by killing some Muslime that are doing the world a favor.

I really get the impression by your comment that you are an anti-semite. It is the same bullshit all the Jew haters spew. While I am not down with Judaism it is a fact that Jews have been victims and not victimizers. I for one hope that the reamaining Jews on this planet wipe out the Muslims.

It is a great big fucking Nazi lie to imply that the Jews want to take over anything. As I recall Israel has given back land

Perhaps you need to see a map of the region.
http://www.morainevalley.edu/ctl/MiddleEast/images/Map_Israel1949_1967.jpg

Perhaps you need to see the demographics
Jewish 76.4%, Muslim 16%, Arab Christians 1.7%, other Christian 0.4%, Druze 1.6%, unspecified 3.9% (2004)

Yep, that is correct, 16% of Israel's population is Muslim.

Nextime do a little research. Tell us the religion of the Saudi population. Nevermind. I will save you the time. It is 100% Sunni Mudscum but do check the ratio of men to women.

The difference between a Muslim Nazi are slim. Nazis were smarter but Muslims are even more evil and they have killed more innocent people.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I don't have anything against Judaism as a religion for the Jewish people.

What I don't like is Judaism for other peoples. This is of course xtianity.
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Great, he's a racist now too. Pagandawn just knows how to stack up brownie points.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ball wrote:
Of the Abrahamic faiths Judaism is by far the least evil.


This is of course utter bullshit. Judaism gets left alone because people are afraid of being called an anti-semite for criticising it. Judaism has had the least opportunity to do evil in recent times, because its never had a missionary tradition. Mainly because the Goyim aren't worth preaching to. This means there are also only perhaps a few million Jews in the entire world so they have less chance to commit genocide against the unbelievers. But for a detailed account of all the nations destroyed raped and pillaged by the Israelites please read the Tanakh.

Judaism still has all the oppressive laws and horrific scripture that Christianity and Islam have. Yahweh is as sadistic, misogynistic, xenophobic and homophobic as his Muslim and Christian counterparts.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ball, do you know how the muslims in Isreal are treated, they are 2nd class citizens! The Palestinians had thier land stolen from them (present day Isreal) and Isreal is working to grab Gaza and The West Bank, they are already occupying them illegally, and brutally I might add. Relax with the anti-semitism. I don't know, they're just white people to me, oppressing darker people as usual.
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