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Moloth
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*shrug*.. it is now, i suppose.. lol.
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SpecterOpacus
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| pr126 wrote: | I used to cook polenta, and you can do similar things with semolina too.
Spread it on an oiled tray, 1.5 cm thick, cool it down and cut out triangles or round shapes, and pan fry them.
Yummy. Italian origin. |
Yep yep. I find olive oil to work the best because it tastes so much better.
I am Italian so I know this shit pretty readily. >_>
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josephpalazzo
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: A personal crisis |
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| Moloth wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Moloth wrote: |
I'm old, fat, have an IQ of 89, still a virgin, i play D&D on the weekends and videogames during the week. I've been going to college, off and on, for over 10 years and only have a 1 year Certificate to show for it and i make barely over minimum wage.
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As I've often said on these boards, you're a fucking moron... I've been vindicated...  |
yup, you have.
i have NO credibility and anything i say should NEVER be taken seriously, for the only reason that i'm the one who said it... what i say should always just be taken on its own merits.
I, Moloth, am indeed, a 'fucking moron'.
however, you're never really arguing with ME... you're arguing with my points... which are, most often, either questions or based on very solid reason.
So, if anyone needs to think of me like this:
in order to think that they're better than me or to be able to ignore my points, thats fine. This is, afterall, just the Internet.  |
We finally agree on something... btw, great carpet...  |
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Moloth
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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*nods* it is, isn't it?
thank you for noticing.
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Azathoth
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Thanks for the help I got, from the people who were helpful.
To the rest of you: It's obvious that I can't go on an atheist forum and expect a lot of puppies and kittens for asking about religious conversion. On the other hand, telling me that you won't feel bad if I abandon logic and reason and go for blind faith is insulting and seems to be missing the point of a lot of what was in my original post.
I'm thinking about it and doing a lot of reading from both sides of the line. I haven't converted yet because I haven't seen a reason to. If I see a reason to, I will, otherwise, I won't.
What I'm doing is stopping my old habit of assuming all the Christian stuff I read is wrong, and all the atheistic stuff I've read is right. I'm just trying to weigh each one on its own merits, ignoring utopians on both sides, and trying to figure out what's what.
btw pancakes taste best if you beat the batter like hell right before you pour it in to the pan, use a little olive oil instead of butter, and only turn them once.
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josephpalazzo
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Azathoth wrote: | Thanks for the help I got, from the people who were helpful.
To the rest of you: It's obvious that I can't go on an atheist forum and expect a lot of puppies and kittens for asking about religious conversion. On the other hand, telling me that you won't feel bad if I abandon logic and reason and go for blind faith is insulting and seems to be missing the point of a lot of what was in my original post.
I'm thinking about it and doing a lot of reading from both sides of the line. I haven't converted yet because I haven't seen a reason to. If I see a reason to, I will, otherwise, I won't.
What I'm doing is stopping my old habit of assuming all the Christian stuff I read is wrong, and all the atheistic stuff I've read is right. I'm just trying to weigh each one on its own merits, ignoring utopians on both sides, and trying to figure out what's what.
btw pancakes taste best if you beat the batter like hell right before you pour it in to the pan, use a little olive oil instead of butter, and only turn them once. |
Pancakes taste better if you substitute riccota cheese for the milk...
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Al'Capone
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It's my first post on the forum, I hope it might help, and that I am not out of subject 
Why don't you consider to become an agnostic, like I am. I was Christian, then atheist, then agnostic. I am a kind of strong agnostic: I think that God might exist, but surely not as we define it But, well, there might be things greater than us. In fact there are, like stars, galaxies, ... So there might be some intelligent beings, or even not intelligent but with a kind of nice-self-logic (like physics laws) that are not found yet.
The non-existence of classic, antic, gods does not mean that the Universe is meaningless. That simply means that it's not an old guy in our sky which is managing the whole thing 
So look around you, how amazing nature is, how much organisation we have. Of course that's not perfect, but that's not empty or totally chaotic. In fact, as an atheist (or ex-atheist), you know that you can have moral and ethics without "supernatural guidance". Is that not a great thing? So there might be God, but we will have to change his definition.
You might gain a lot by reading books from physicists, like Stephen Hawking (sorry I don't know other and don't feel I need to read them ). Their findings surely crush the existing beliefs, but also gives great perspectives!
There are more hope outside the existing religions than outside, because the world we know from Sciences, observation and exploration is way greater than the world they describe!
Hope that help! BTW, if you consider Jesus Christ as a humanist, a modern persons (in his time) who tried to change things, it's quite great.
PS. : I am actually trying to change the definition of religion to something agnostic, without membership and without any "truths" (and compatible with atheism). You can contribute here: Open Deity |
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Moloth
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Al'Capone wrote: | It's my first post on the forum, I hope it might help, and that I am not out of subject
Why don't you consider to become an agnostic, like I am. I was Christian, then atheist, then agnostic. I am a kind of strong agnostic: I think that God might exist, but surely not as we define it But, well, there might be things greater than us. In fact there are, like stars, galaxies, ... So there might be some intelligent beings, or even not intelligent but with a kind of nice-self-logic (like physics laws) that are not found yet.
The non-existence of classic, antic, gods does not mean that the Universe is meaningless. That simply means that it's not an old guy in our sky which is managing the whole thing
So look around you, how amazing nature is, how much organisation we have. Of course that's not perfect, but that's not empty or totally chaotic. In fact, as an atheist (or ex-atheist), you know that you can have moral and ethics without "supernatural guidance". Is that not a great thing? So there might be God, but we will have to change his definition.
You might gain a lot by reading books from physicists, like Stephen Hawking (sorry I don't know other and don't feel I need to read them ). Their findings surely crush the existing beliefs, but also gives great perspectives!
There are more hope outside the existing religions than outside, because the world we know from Sciences, observation and exploration is way greater than the world they describe!
Hope that help! BTW, if you consider Jesus Christ as a humanist, a modern persons (in his time) who tried to change things, it's quite great.
PS. : I am actually trying to change the definition of religion to something agnostic, without membership and without any "truths" (and compatible with atheism). You can contribute here: Open Deity |
because i'm intellectually honest and not a coward.
you are one weird, woo-woo kind of person.
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RyanDzundza
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Why don't you consider to become an agnostic |
just because someone says something exists with no evidence doesnt mean i have to entertain the thought that it might exist
no evidence, no existence as far as im concerned, otherwise i would have to be agnostic about everything coming from peoples imagination, like unicorns and goblins, to which i say FTS lol
welcome to the forums btw
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romans120
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Moloth wrote: | | Al'Capone wrote: | It's my first post on the forum, I hope it might help, and that I am not out of subject
Why don't you consider to become an agnostic, like I am. I was Christian, then atheist, then agnostic. I am a kind of strong agnostic: I think that God might exist, but surely not as we define it But, well, there might be things greater than us. In fact there are, like stars, galaxies, ... So there might be some intelligent beings, or even not intelligent but with a kind of nice-self-logic (like physics laws) that are not found yet.
The non-existence of classic, antic, gods does not mean that the Universe is meaningless. That simply means that it's not an old guy in our sky which is managing the whole thing
So look around you, how amazing nature is, how much organisation we have. Of course that's not perfect, but that's not empty or totally chaotic. In fact, as an atheist (or ex-atheist), you know that you can have moral and ethics without "supernatural guidance". Is that not a great thing? So there might be God, but we will have to change his definition.
You might gain a lot by reading books from physicists, like Stephen Hawking (sorry I don't know other and don't feel I need to read them ). Their findings surely crush the existing beliefs, but also gives great perspectives!
There are more hope outside the existing religions than outside, because the world we know from Sciences, observation and exploration is way greater than the world they describe!
Hope that help! BTW, if you consider Jesus Christ as a humanist, a modern persons (in his time) who tried to change things, it's quite great.
PS. : I am actually trying to change the definition of religion to something agnostic, without membership and without any "truths" (and compatible with atheism). You can contribute here: Open Deity |
because i'm intellectually honest and not a coward.
you are one weird, woo-woo kind of person. |
yes very very odd post but what made it creepy was the use of the smiley's and the whole trying to change the definition of religion thing smacks of I want your money. l
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Moloth
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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yes very very odd post but what made it creepy was the use of the smiley's and the whole trying to change the definition of religion thing smacks of I want your money. l |
O_O indeed. i can't tell if its Crazy like "yelling person on a street corner" or just "a used car salesman", creepy though.
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Al'Capone
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Actually the smileys are here because I think we have to take things with distance. I am just a small thing, but I try to take it joyfully. I don't feel like a coward, I simply have no idea where the universe is going to, it's why I am agnostic: there might be something we can call God, if only we don't expect what we created ourselves. I tolerate quite well atheists, you should tolerate agnostics .
I am answering like that, and created open deity because it seems that there are only three choices: 2000 years old beliefs (or likely), atheism or agnosticism. In my opinion, the existing religions are just too old, so why not create new ones, based on atheism and agnosticism (and change the meaning of it too). I do not ask you to follow the idea, or even to visit the page, I just offer the idea to you: why not simply say that the religions are too old, and define our owns. I tried also to write something which is against beliefs (and so faith): that's exactly what lead to agnosticism AND atheism. That's an essay, I am not asking you to agree (actually I am asking you to not believe in it, at least). I might be wrong, but I am trying.
The main idea is that the actual universe is interesting enough to be lived without human-made god. But I am agnostic, still, sorry about that! |
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Moloth
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*sigh*.. fine.. here we go again..
a-theist = without belief
a-gnostic = without knowledge.
atheism is the LACK of a belief in a deity. if you do not actively believe in a deity, you are a-theist; without belief.
theism deals with belief
gnosticism deals with knowledge.
two totally different bags of cats.
atheism has nothing to do with ANYTHING except for belief in a deity. there is no atheist creed, dogma, system, universal stance on abortion, science or anything else.
if you're trying to 'change the meanings of words' and twist them into something that better suits your own personal worldview, i'd say you're being actively dishonest and propagandist.
| Quote: | | there are only three choices: 2000 years old beliefs (or likely), atheism or agnosticism. |
your education is deficient. there are MANY different belief structures out there. atheism and agnosticism are completely different topics. one can be both, one or the other, or neither.
for instance, i generally consider myself an agnostic atheist: i have no belief BECAUSE i have no knowledge of a deity.
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RyanDzundza
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Al'Capone wrote: | Actually the smileys are here because I think we have to take things with distance. I am just a small thing, but I try to take it joyfully. I don't feel like a coward, I simply have no idea where the universe is going to, it's why I am agnostic: there might be something we can call God, if only we don't expect what we created ourselves. I tolerate quite well atheists, you should tolerate agnostics .
I am answering like that, and created open deity because it seems that there are only three choices: 2000 years old beliefs (or likely), atheism or agnosticism. In my opinion, the existing religions are just too old, so why not create new ones, based on atheism and agnosticism (and change the meaning of it too). I do not ask you to follow the idea, or even to visit the page, I just offer the idea to you: why not simply say that the religions are too old, and define our owns. I tried also to write something which is against beliefs (and so faith): that's exactly what lead to agnosticism AND atheism. That's an essay, I am not asking you to agree (actually I am asking you to not believe in it, at least). I might be wrong, but I am trying.
The main idea is that the actual universe is interesting enough to be lived without human-made god. But I am agnostic, still, sorry about that! |
yeah when things get old we should just shoot them like an old dog, im with ya 
athiesm and agnostism arent religions, how the hell can you make them into one 
and i just scan read everything else you said and it didnt make much sense to me so ignored it, but here you
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Moloth
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