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ApostateLois
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| Quote: | | they say its a brains reaction to cut off all mobility in the body during sleep so that the people dont move in thier sleep and when those people wake they still dont have full control of thier bodies |
Yeah, sometimes that part of the brain doesn't do its job, and that's why some people walk, talk, and do all sorts of weird shit while sleeping. Their bodies act out what the brain is dreaming.
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Raggle Fraggle
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| ApostateLois wrote: | | Quote: | | they say its a brains reaction to cut off all mobility in the body during sleep so that the people dont move in thier sleep and when those people wake they still dont have full control of thier bodies |
Yeah, sometimes that part of the brain doesn't do its job, and that's why some people walk, talk, and do all sorts of weird shit while sleeping. Their bodies act out what the brain is dreaming. |
Both of my parents sleep talk and me and my sister sleep walk. When I was under stress during the last school year, I would walk around the house at 2 in the morning and it would wake my parents up. It made them so mad.
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OpenMind
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As a kid I was always so interested in ghost stories.
I admit it is fun to believe in the unexplained.
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I have also had sleep paralysis.
I try with all my might to just move my finger. My eyes are closed but I try to reach over to my husband laying there so I can wake him and he can wake me up. They say it happens more often if you sleep on your back for some reason. It can also happen if you are overly tired.
I don't see any visual stuff but the worst thing is that I feel like I can't breathe! That is what scares me! They say that this is not dangerous and even though it seems like 5 minutes it's probably only a matter of seconds.
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i'e had sleep paralysis twice...
the first time, i was about 15 and it scared the shit out of me. The second time, i was a few years older and it was more annoying than anything, because at that point i knew what it was and just wanted it to be over.
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chookrooter
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| Quote: | | A co-worker was recently telling me about how his previous home was haunted, but my rebuttal was simply "maybe you saw something you didn't understand, and your left hemisphere just supplied an answer". Seems logical doesn't it? |
Yes,very logical. Also a rational explantion for religion..
Context: until the C17th, Astrology was taught in universities all over Europe. Later in some countries such as India and China.
"Religion: Man's attempt to communicate with the weather" (Grafitto,London 1985) |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: A logical explanation for the paranormal |
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| Noway wrote: | ...
A co-worker was recently telling me about how his previous home was haunted, but my rebuttal was simply "maybe you saw something you didn't understand, and your left hemisphere just supplied an answer". Seems logical doesn't it? |
Hi. I'm new here, but if I may join the discussion, the house where my wife and I have been living for a little over a year seems to be "haunted." We have both sensed the same phenomenon, sometimes only one of us at a time, sometimes when we were both together in the same room and observed the same phenomenon at the exact same time. While I do not think "ghosts" are necessarily the intangible remnants of dead people, it does appear to me that something does exist even though science can not explain what it is. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: Re: A logical explanation for the paranormal |
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| Cybercommuter wrote: | | Noway wrote: | ...
A co-worker was recently telling me about how his previous home was haunted, but my rebuttal was simply "maybe you saw something you didn't understand, and your left hemisphere just supplied an answer". Seems logical doesn't it? |
Hi. I'm new here, but if I may join the discussion, the house where my wife and I have been living for a little over a year seems to be "haunted." We have both sensed the same phenomenon, sometimes only one of us at a time, sometimes when we were both together in the same room and observed the same phenomenon at the exact same time. While I do not think "ghosts" are necessarily the intangible remnants of dead people, it does appear to me that something does exist even though science can not explain what it is. |
like people feeding off of and complimenting each others false perceptions?
a draft, a reflection, a creak, misplacing something, seeing lights from passing vehicles, getting "feelings" of something... not exactly worth calling Dr. Spengler, Dr. Venkman, Dr. Stantz and Mr. Zeddemore over, ya know?
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back to sleep paralysis, i never knew it actually had a name. yeah ive experienced that a couple times... not recently but when i was younger... it is the scariest thing
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Cybercommuter
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: A logical explanation for the paranormal |
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| Moloth wrote: |
like people feeding off of and complimenting each others false perceptions?
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If you wish to think of it that way that is your prerogative. |
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Moloth
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: A logical explanation for the paranormal |
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| Cybercommuter wrote: | | Moloth wrote: |
like people feeding off of and complimenting each others false perceptions?
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If you wish to think of it that way that is your prerogative. |
the 'way i wish to think of it' is the way that is grounded in reality.
if YOU want to believe in magic, thats fine... but dont expect to go unchallenged on this site with that mess.
Evidence: put up or shut up.
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^^Mowwy strikes again^^
There's also the very real side effects of things in a household that mess with your perception, and the perception of everyone else. Electromagnetic fields are thought to be one. There's also unseen mold spores flying around, some of which can reek havoc on the senses.
Rational is easiest to the majority of AF posters.
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@cyber
Are you related to George Carlin?
There seems to be a resemblance in the photo,but you have a less, umm, "lived in" look. |
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Cybercommuter
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: A logical explanation for the paranormal |
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| Moloth wrote: | | Cybercommuter wrote: | | Moloth wrote: |
like people feeding off of and complimenting each others false perceptions?
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If you wish to think of it that way that is your prerogative. |
the 'way i wish to think of it' is the way that is grounded in reality.
if YOU want to believe in magic, thats fine... but dont expect to go unchallenged on this site with that mess.
Evidence: put up or shut up. |
Whatever. One man's magic is another man's science. If you and I had lived a few hundred years ago, and there had been a pony-express version of the Internet in those days, and I had uploaded a message to the pony express Internet saying that I had communicated in real-time with someone hundreds of miles away, you would probably be calling the anti-witch squad out to hunt down my ass wouldn't you. And my screen name was Marchese Guglielmo Marconi... |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: A logical explanation for the paranormal |
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| Cybercommuter wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | | Cybercommuter wrote: | | Moloth wrote: |
like people feeding off of and complimenting each others false perceptions?
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If you wish to think of it that way that is your prerogative. |
the 'way i wish to think of it' is the way that is grounded in reality.
if YOU want to believe in magic, thats fine... but dont expect to go unchallenged on this site with that mess.
Evidence: put up or shut up. |
Whatever. One man's magic is another man's science. If you and I had lived a few hundred years ago, and there had been a pony-express version of the Internet in those days, and I had uploaded a message to the pony express Internet saying that I had communicated in real-time with someone hundreds of miles away, you would probably be calling the anti-witch squad out to hunt down my ass wouldn't you. And my screen name was Marchese Guglielmo Marconi... |
Wait....what!?
So, haunted houses will somehow help humanity into the next great technological epoch? I don't really follow your reasoning here. The invention of the radio somehow shows evidence that your house really is haunted?
Anyway, "waking dreams" is considered the #1 cause of the appears of apparition at night by neurologists and psychologists. Plain and simple. And while most apparitions are seen while wake, they have been shown to most likely be perceived during day-dreams or other altered states of consciousness. Many occur while the person is in a relaxed state or doing a calming activity like reading for example.
Occam's Razor is swift and sharp.
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