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9/11 Debate - Pentagon (Peanut Gallery)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

FlatEarth1024 wrote:
Moloth wrote:
heh... i wanna start talking like Howard Cosell now.. or John Madden.


"Okay. Now if the guy in the plane....if he goes here, and the wing....the wing touches the ground at this point, then....then....if he doesn't smash into the ground like "BAM"...like that. Then....then....uh....if he doesn't hit the ground....then, he's probably gonna crash into the building."


Genius.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Alright boys and girls. I'm starting to write up my first post. Thanks for your patience, but I had a stroke of divine inspiration last night and figured out my opening post so I'm glad I waited...well, actually I just thought about it when I was trying to go to sleep and hashed it out. I should have it up by end of day today. I think it'll be pretty good. It's primarily my own ideas and arguments, nothing I've seen on other sites, so I'd love to hear what everyone thinks.

Oh, hell. I knew you would call me out on it, lol.

Ok, how's about this:
"What possible reason could a couple civilian pilots(Yes I know one was retired military. So is my father, and he or any of the other pilots I've known certainly wouldn't have done something like this when he flew for the airlines.) have for flying all these people to what they could only assume was their certain death, knowing that their continued existence, even if they were in on it, would be completely unacceptable to the people in charge of the conspiracy?"
I can't name the specific fallacies here, but the argument isn't real strong.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

yeah, the "Well, my DAD IS blah blah blah... " is just... bleh.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yeah, I thought that was what you'd point out. I thought about it later, and I shouldn't have put it. That bit could be deleted and it wouldn't change the point. I was basically just trying to point out what I would guess is a fallacy that CT's typically use to imply that anyone who has ever been in the military or worked for the government are automatically suspicious and are probably "in on the conspiracy," which that guy has been accused of by CT advocates. Most military and government employees are just normal people doing their 8 to 5 and going home to their families when they're done.

There were a couple other things I noticed I forgot or messed up a bit. Like I kind of half-assed the point of bringing up the al-Zarqawi (fuck, that's an awkward name to type) video, forgetting to put in the aftermath pictures from the next day that showed no sign of any fire damage, just rubble and even unburned clothes. That's what I get for trying to get it done fast, and writing it on a Friday afternoon when I didn't get much sleep the night before.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

So is the debate going on right now?

The Rick Copeland there should be a link in this thread to the debate...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The debate thread link. Yeah, I finished my first post.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

where the hell is lumpy? He hasn't replied in a week. I was REALLY looking forward to it too.....still writing it up?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Maybe the conspiracy done gobbled him up to prevent Lumpy from exposing their devious plot...

Thanks for the link...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

rickcopeland648 wrote:
Maybe the conspiracy done gobbled him up to prevent Lumpy from exposing their devious plot...

Thanks for the link...

RIP Lumpy.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

BarkAtTheMoon wrote:
The debate thread link. Yeah, I finished my first post.


Point, set, match. Well done.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

FlatEarth1024 wrote:
Moloth wrote:
heh... i wanna start talking like Howard Cosell now.. or John Madden.


"Okay. Now if the guy in the plane....if he goes here, and the wing....the wing touches the ground at this point, then....then....if he doesn't smash into the ground like "BAM"...like that. Then....then....uh....if he doesn't hit the ground....then, he's probably gonna crash into the building."



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After further review, there is not enough visual evidence to substantiate a conspiracy theory. The "truthers" are being charged with their first time out.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

rickcopeland648 wrote:
Maybe the conspiracy done gobbled him up to prevent Lumpy from exposing their devious plot...

Thanks for the link...


Oh come on now, I'm really looking forward to his reply, you know, cause we only get one side of the argument and just don't want to hear the truth.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I have replies written up in two different places, I just haven't gotten it like I want it yet.
I wrote one version of the reply at work, and left it on the computer.
I wrote another version of the reply at home, and it's not complete. I'll eventually combine the two and post. I haven't forgotten about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Bravo.

btw, wing of a 757 > light pole

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uo0C01Fwb8 (doesn't really prove my statement, but its a fucking sweet video Smile)
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